View Poll Results: Are we to blame for Africa's current state?

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Thread: Are we to blame for Africa's current state?

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    Re: Are we to blame for Africa's current state?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Unfortunately, feeding people doesn't fix their problems, and probably makes their problems worse, in reality.
    Africans will never improve unless they have to pay the full price for their refusal to change their self-destructive habits. They starve because they'd rather join warlord gangs than do the hard, unexciting work of farming. We are intefering with evolution if we bail out people whose disasters are their own fault.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Are we to blame for Africa's current state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Well, the US is the worlds leader in donated food, becaue it is the worlds leader in food production.

    And sorry, do not expect food from the Middle East. They have lots of oil, but they are net importers of food themselves. Their only major exports are generally Oil and Pearls. And you can't eat either of those.
    But the petrocrats can buy our food with their oil loot and donate it to the Africans.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Are we to blame for Africa's current state?

    Only white mans burden-style paternalism would assume responsibility for Africa

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    Re: Are we to blame for Africa's current state?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    Personally, I think it's ridiculous when people say that people in Africa starve because of us.

    People say that the only way we can afford to live as well as we do is because of poor children in Africa. This is utter garbage. Barely anything, other than a bit of oil, is exported out of Africa. There are starving children in Africa mainly because the continent is a jumbled mess of civil wars and religious terrorism.

    Sure there are children in India/China/etc. working to make our shoes, but that's not our fault.
    I agree with you. Parts of Africa had been under European; read "white man's" empire for generations, so, of course now that they're having problems, the lead white guys (the US) is responsible for their upkeep. Those countries have so many tribal feudalists running their territories that steel everything that anybody sends theat the epople in need never get anything - without paying for it . . .

    I think we should just abandon some of those places all together and let hell have its way with them, or until those poeple get so fed up at being ripped off an abused that they do something about it themsleves: we did.
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    Re: Are we to blame for Africa's current state?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    But the petrocrats can buy our food with their oil loot and donate it to the Africans.
    The already spend money in the form of transportation and distribution of the food we provide. Look back at the amount of national income spent in the programs, and you see they spend a much higher percentage then the US does.

    With high bulk low cost commodities like rice, often times the actual transportation cost is higher then the cost of the item.

    And there really is not much of a surplus leftover to buy. The surplus that the US donates is taken after the amount of food that is needed for internal needs and export has already been deducted. If they tried to buy more food, that will be comming out of consumption stocks, which will have an inflationary effect on the food you and I buy. Essentially, we will be subsidizing the donation of more food via higher prices paid at the store.

    Some problems you just can't solve by throwing money at them.
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