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Taser Use

Is using a taser to arrest a noncoperative but nonviolent person "excessive force"

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lpast said:
lol...ok ...a question though where did you get the 10 minute stat from...mayberry police dept...lol
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Well until you can figure out how to quantum tunnel, you sure as hell ain't gonna be there when I need you the most.
 
lpast said:
ouuuuuuuuu ...I bet every cop in your town...drives the other way when they see you...lol.
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You do realize that your posts right now are proving many of the negative stereotypes that cops have?
 
Ikari said:
When you really need a cop, they're 10 minutes away. Don't rely on them to save your life, rely on yourself.
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Based on my experience as a policeman I know you are wrong.


Can you give you experiences where you personally could not rely upon the police to save your life.
 
lpast said:
ouuuuuuuuu ...I bet every cop in your town...drives the other way when they see you...lol.
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More often than not, they are driving in the opposite direction.
 
Connery said:
Based on my experience as a policeman I know you are wrong.


Can you give you experiences where you personally could not rely upon the police to save your life.
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Based on my experience with physics, I know you cannot teleport. I mean, if you could be there to "protect" everyone, why are there murders? Why is there rape? Why is there theft? I mean, come on you can be right there at that time, yes? Or is it that it actually takes transfer of information first and foremost to alert the police and then there is a necessary time lag until they get there? Hmm? Maybe? Possibly? That or cops can break the laws of physics, and if so I'd like to know. How do you get around the whole physics thing?
 
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Connery said:
....and when you are in trouble who you gonna call...ghostbusters? No you will call a COP...
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I probably distrust the government much less than Ikari does. However, his point about distrust, which I agree with according to my own limits of trust, has nothing to do with who anyone is going to call when they're in trouble. You can call the cops when you need them and still have a healthy distrust of them just like you can buy a car and still have a healthy distrust of car dealers. Your response to him doesn't really make sense.
 
lpast said:
THEY ALL LOVE US WHEN THEY NEED US and they have a load in thier shorts and scared to death...lol....greatest thing in the world is being an OLD experienced cop...ive heard all of this a gadzillion times and I just laugh...
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I love cops all the time except when they are the ones that have a chip on their shoulder...
 
ThePlayDrive said:
And you seem intent on only pushing one of them.
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No playdrive...I call it like I see and you have ignored every post ive written in this thread...that stated that the law to sign summons is absurd and lets remember one fact.....whether you will acknowledge it or not...theres a whole lot of people that obviously have issues with police that dont have a clue what they are talking about...but thats fine...ive known most are clueless for 40 yrs ...lol...I think cop haters are cute to be honest...I especially like when they get all antsy and intense lol
 
Bodhisattva said:
I love cops all the time except when they are the ones that have a chip on their shoulder...
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I love cops all the time except for when they're in my way.
 
lpast said:
lol...ok ...a question though where did you get the 10 minute stat from...mayberry police dept...lol
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Where I live I would say that they are 20 minutes away at best when you call them...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Where I live I would say that they are 20 minutes away at best when you call them...
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What are you talking about? Cops have precognition and instant teleportation, they can be there 2 minutes before you need them! I mean listen to all these experienced folk here telling me how they can protect me at any given moment. 1 minute before the dude pulls a gun on me, the cops are there stopping him! All glory to authority!
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
I probably distrust the government much less than Ikari does. However, his point about distrust, which I agree with according to my own limits of trust, has nothing to do with who anyone is going to call when they're in trouble. You can call the cops when you need them and still have a healthy distrust of them just like you can buy a car and still have a healthy distrust of car dealers. Your response to him doesn't really make sense.
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Makes perfect sense if you were ever a cop that responded to HUNDREDS of people that needed help...and that includes especially ex offenders....and every other type of individual.....you have no idea how many people are saved a day by police...ALL people like you harp on the very few incidents that hit the media and you ignore the simple fact that its not even half of 1/4 of a % of the interactions with police and citizens that dont have any negative outcomes....so harp on lol...ive heard all this before...

Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2012
 
Ok im out of this thread :)....how did you make out baiting me..ROFL....
 
lpast said:
Makes perfect sense if you were ever a cop that responded to HUNDREDS of people that needed help...and that includes especially ex offenders....and every other type of individual.....you have no idea how many people are saved a day by police...ALL people like you harp on the very few incidents that hit the media and you ignore the simple fact that its not even half of 1/4 of a % of the interactions with police and citizens that dont have any negative outcomes....so harp on lol...ive heard all this before...

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The biggest value of the cops is their existence. That's it. Because the cops exist and arrest some folk and **** with everyone else on some aggregate level; there is some lessening of intent. It will never be zero, but without cops in total you would certainly see a lot more massive disarray and anarchy. So it's not to say that cops don't serve a purpose. But rather that perhaps you think your purpose is greater than what it actually is. For the most part, cops are a hindrance and annoyance to most people. I'm happy you're there, I don't want to do away with you. But you ain't all that and a bag of chips. You're a untrustworthy branch of government more capable and willing to infringe upon our rights and liberties. As such you must be controlled, regulated, and monitored.
 
lpast said:
Ok im out of this thread :)....how did you make out baiting me..ROFL....
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Running away is often the response of those whom cannot logically respond. Run away little boy, have fun.
 
Ikari said:
Running away is often the response of those whom cannot logically respond. Run away little boy, have fun.
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I dont run from anything young man...when you decide to post something makes sense and not just troll then I might respond to you...but your flagrantly unknowledgeable and your the type that calls and grabs the cops ankle so he doesnt leave you all alone...lol....your the one with the chip and me...im the one collecting a pension laughing at you trying to be such a tough guy...lol
 
lpast said:
I dont run from anything young man...when you decide to post something makes sense and not just troll then I might respond to you...but your flagrantly unknowledgeable and your the type that calls and grabs the cops ankle so he doesnt leave you all alone...lol....your the one with the chip and me...im the one collecting a pension laughing at you trying to be such a tough guy...lol
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Two words... you are = you're ;)
 
lpast said:
No playdrive...I call it like I see and you have ignored every post ive written in this thread...that stated that the law to sign summons is absurd and lets remember one fact.....whether you will acknowledge it or not...theres a whole lot of people that obviously have issues with police that dont have a clue what they are talking about...but thats fine...ive known most are clueless for 40 yrs ...lol...I think cop haters are cute to be honest...I especially like when they get all antsy and intense lol
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Criticizing the law and acknowledging that the validity of distrust in the police are different things. You have not the done the former, you have only pushed the point of view that those who distrust police are "clueless" which means that you're only interested in one side of the story as I said. Your posts are literally the embodiment of the negative stereotypes that police officers get which is a shame for vast majority of cops who are positive influence on the country.
 
lpast said:
Makes perfect sense if you were ever a cop that responded to HUNDREDS of people that needed help...and that includes especially ex offenders....and every other type of individual.....you have no idea how many people are saved a day by police...ALL people like you harp on the very few incidents that hit the media and you ignore the simple fact that its not even half of 1/4 of a % of the interactions with police and citizens that dont have any negative outcomes....so harp on lol...ive heard all this before...

Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths in 2012
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I'm amazed at how your comments are consistently irrelevant to the posts your responding to.

lpast said:
Ok im out of this thread :)....how did you make out baiting me..ROFL....
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I'm pretty sure you said that 10 pages ago...
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I'm amazed at how your comments are consistently irrelevant to the posts your responding to.


I'm pretty sure you said that 10 pages ago...
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Talk to the hand mah brother lmao....ahh playdrive its so very obvious what your trying to do..its beyond silly...just hit the report button on every post I write...you may eventually score one...lol...
 
lpast said:
Talk to the hand mah brother lmao....ahh playdrive its so very obvious what your trying to do..its beyond silly...just hit the report button on every post I write...you may eventually score one...lol...
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I don't know what this means. Too many ellipses.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I don't know what this means. Too many ellipses.
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He told you you were obvious... he must balance the force by veiling his response with the obtuse.
 
Ikari said:
Based on my experience with physics, I know you cannot teleport. I mean, if you could be there to "protect" everyone, why are there murders? Why is there rape? Why is there theft? I mean, come on you can be right there at that time, yes? Or is it that it actually takes transfer of information first and foremost to alert the police and then there is a necessary time lag until they get there? Hmm? Maybe? Possibly? That or cops can break the laws of physics, and if so I'd like to know. How do you get around the whole physics thing?
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You have just proven what was once thought impossible, you are speaking from a part of the anatomy that was never meant to utter a word.

Just face facts your position is without merit...:lol:
 
I am the only "do not know".
Why ?
I do not know the quality and quantity of police training in this particular state.
And I know little of this woman..
And the way our media is today....they simply cannot be trusted.
In PA, last I knew, a man did NOT have to sign a ticket, but we have 50 states and 5000 ways of doing things ...
Reform ?
 
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lpast said:
Wake...of course some must be made to comply via force....but never should excessive force be used EVER...
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Oh...In a perfect world, perhaps..
In real life, the police will use excessive force at times....they are men....imperfect....be thankful that tazers are used, not guns...
IMO, the police ttraining can be improved, and it has been, at least in most states.
The citizens training can also be much better..
Our schools ?
too often...ugh !
 
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