View Poll Results: Is using a taser to arrest a noncoperative but nonviolent person "excessive force"

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    Re: Taser Use

    Poll results are interesting. 3 people for each option.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Poll results are interesting. 3 people for each option.
    Its always split...in the end it doesnt matter if tasers are gone or not...more people will get hurt in the process is all...thats my opinion

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If you spent any time working the streets, you'd understand exactly where that attitude comes from. Frankly, I'd rather have an alpha male for a cop than a criminal, any day of the week. Being a cop (or paramedic/firefighter), you deal with the very worst of humanity. My hat's off to anyone who can put up with it as a career.
    nothing wrong with being an alpha male on the job... but professionalism and good judgement should come before the whole " obey my authoritaaay or else" schtick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its always split...in the end it doesnt matter if tasers are gone or not...more people will get hurt in the process is all...thats my opinion
    I do not think any one is trying to get tasers taken away from police. They are clearly a useful tool.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    No, cops are people of many people's hatred because there are personalities out there who instinctively fight all authority, legit or not.
    If that's what you choose to believe, but it's not based in reality. A lot of people hate cops because too many of them do abuse their power. I don't hate cops, but I don't care for too many of them that I've had to deal with in the past, either. First off, a person doesn't come into my house without permission, especially doesn't tell me to "shut the **** up" in my home, and nobody harasses my family for any reason. I personally don't care about their badge, or their uniform. A mother ****er will respect my home, and my family. Especially when they have no permission to be there. These local cops here don't understand that, and that's why issues arise, and it's why the people here hate them, because they act like a little piece of shiny metal magically makes them demigods.

    I don't blame all cops, I know there's good ones out there, and they do a hard job, but the ones with the attitudes are a huge problem.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    aye.... I guess i'm weird in that I don't care about being arrested and taken down to the precinct, it's never bothered me.
    some folks are more apt to simply comply in order to get out of being arrested...I just do my thing, do what's required of me, and that's it... if i'm arrested, i look forward to getting in front of the judge.

    I much prefer dealing with street cops than CO's though...i've never met a CO that wasn't a complete asshole.
    You get arrested alot it sounds like...most assholes do but you made my point for me in this thread...you came along like a good boy...we like that...COs especially like that...lol

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I understand where the attitude comes from. You spend your days dealing with bull**** and idiots, much of the public thinks you're a piece of crap, you have to deal with your own personal life, you aren't getting paid a whole lot and you have to balance all the other annoying and dangerous stuff that comes with the job. It's easy to understand, but understanding doesn't amount to me thinking that it's okay.
    I'm just saying walk a mile in their shoes before declaring judgement. Cops get alot of bad rap for doing their jobs. They put up with **** that you and I would consider beating someone half to death over- well, maybe not you, but I.
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    Re: Taser Use

    From what I researched the law in Washington State regarding signing a ticket, the law was changed in 2006 where the person being issued a ticket was not required to sign the citation. She refused to get out of the car. That is not required in this for issuance of a ticket. If such is the current law then the use of the tasers was excessive and police procedure should come into question.

    The body of the law is as follows:
    "Sec. 1. RCW 46.61.021 and 1997 1st sp.s. c 1 s 1 are each amended
    to read as follows:
    (1) Any person requested or signaled to stop by a law enforcement officer for a traffic infraction has a duty to stop.
    (2) Whenever any person is stopped for a traffic infraction, the officer may detain that person for a reasonable period of time necessary to identify the person, check for outstanding warrants, check
    the status of the person's license, insurance identification card, and the vehicle's registration, and complete and issue a notice of traffic infraction.
    (3) Any person requested to identify himself or herself to a law enforcement officer pursuant to an investigation of a traffic infraction has a duty to identify himself or herself((,)) and give his or her current address


    ((, and sign an acknowledgement of receipt of the notice of infraction))stricken from law in bold..
    http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...%20S5393.2.pdf

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    So, you're bound by law to take her into custody. She won't get out of the car. What do you do?
    What do they use to put mental patients that are being violent out for the count? Now I realize that you need a doctor for that so that not too much is used. But being that they are non-violent I see no problem with getting one to come down for such situations. Yeah it takes a bit of extra time. But it is far more perferable to waste a bit of time than to use something that could kill or cause a lot of pain.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not arguing that point and you are absolutely correct that almost every time some one is tased by the police, it is justified and legal. That does not change the fact that there are times when it is not justified and legal.
    No it does not...and it does happen, I dont deny that one bit...when its not legal and its not justified im all for discipline, firing if its called for and the court gets to decide if he goes to jail.
    People refuse to acknowledge that police are on duty in every state, in every town 24hrs a day 7days a week 365 days a year...how in the hell can there not be some bad cops and how can there not be mistakes made...
    Look at the size of the military and the discipline and rules they are under...and we all know some soliders make mistakes...

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