View Poll Results: Is using a taser to arrest a noncoperative but nonviolent person "excessive force"

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Thread: Taser Use

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    "You are free, to do as we tell you!" - Bill Hicks

    No one anywhere is free to do what they want to do when they want to do it or where they want to do it.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Taser Pain May Be Considered by Supreme Court as Excessive Force - Yahoo! News



    She sued the cops, and right now has won the suit, however the cops where granted immunity due to the law being considered too vague. Thursday SCOTUS meets to decide whether to hear the case.

    So, now the question: the woman was no threat and was simply refusing to comply. In that type situation, is the inflicting of intense pain a violation of the constitution? A further question that does not translate well to a poll so just type out an answer...where does the line get drawn? When are police justified in using a taser, and when is it excessive?
    1) This woman was in the wrong regarding the signature of the citation.

    2) Because this woman refused to sign, she was subject to arrest as according to state law.

    3) The police tried to do their job and arrest her, as state law demands when someone getting a citation refuses to sign for it.

    4) She refused to comply to the arrest.

    5) The police used the taser on her in order to force compliance from her for the arrest.

    So even though she was not threatening the police, she was still refusing compliance to being arrested. Therefore, the problem is not using a taser to get her to comply to the arrest but rather that she refused to comply to the arrest, which is demanded by state law.

    So I don't see anything wrong with the police using a taser in this regard. It's much better than other ways in which police could try to force compliance on someone who refuses to be arrested.

    And if we don't allow the police to use some kind of force to force lawbreakers to comply to arrests, then what's the point of having laws at all?
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No one anywhere is free to do what they want to do when they want to do it or where they want to do it.
    Keep telling yourself that.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    "You are free, to do as we tell you!" - Bill Hicks
    something like that.
    like it or not
    the police are in charge of any situation theyre involved in.
    everyone should know this.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket boy View Post
    something like that.
    like it or not
    the police are in charge of any situation theyre involved in.
    everyone should know this.
    Not when the Feds show up, theres always a bigger fish.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Not when the Feds show up, theres always a bigger fish.
    and in any of those situations..mr john q public is the smallest fish there.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Taser Pain May Be Considered by Supreme Court as Excessive Force - Yahoo! News



    She sued the cops, and right now has won the suit, however the cops where granted immunity due to the law being considered too vague. Thursday SCOTUS meets to decide whether to hear the case.

    So, now the question: the woman was no threat and was simply refusing to comply. In that type situation, is the inflicting of intense pain a violation of the constitution? A further question that does not translate well to a poll so just type out an answer...where does the line get drawn? When are police justified in using a taser, and when is it excessive?
    ANybody who is retarded enough to physically resist in my opinion isnt to be trusted, how do the officers know she isnt a threat? yes that can be said NOW but if she was unstable enough to physically resist who says she wasnt capable of more


    I have zero issue with her being tazered with the infomation in the OP

    actually Ive never had a real issue with any tazer story/video.

    they all go the same way, officer is dealing with somebody breaking the law, they are told to stop of given instructions to do something, they refuse, they are told again, they refuse, they are told yet again and also told if they do not comply they will be tazered, they refuse again and get tazed. Then for some reason they are "surprised" they got tazed lol

    In these cases I dont see it as excessive, the officer has to protect himself why risk injury over a person that isnt smart enough to do what they are told once the word tazer is mentioned.
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