View Poll Results: Is using a taser to arrest a noncoperative but nonviolent person "excessive force"

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    26 46.43%
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    13 23.21%
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nothing was taken out of context. You tried to say that I was claiming cops would let people die. Additionally, you have been continually trying to use this "personal experience" crap to diminish the ultimate premise that one is better off relying on themselves to protect themselves than they are to rely on the police. Your addition, in an attempt to diminish effect, is deflection and is utterly besides the point as the personal experience you keep claiming is not necessary for analysis of the entire system.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I asked a direct question to which there was only one answer, based upon your personal experience. If you did not want to answer the question you had several options: you could have ignored me, asked me to clarify, ask me to rephrase etc. What you chose to do was go off into many different areas for which I had no interest in joining you.

    Again the question:
    funny that I gave you two examples from my personal experience and you ignored them both. this proves you are not interested in debating the original issue, but merely wish to deflect from your own misunderstanding and failure in order to play a childish game of "gotcha"
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I'm sympathetic to civil disobedience, and of course abhor the use of a taser on a non-violent and pregnant woman.

    However, no one is above the law and her pregnancy changes nothing. All it does is break our hearts a little and demonize the police, and I know she won the case, but TBH would we even be talking about this person if she was not pregnant, or female?

    You should behave in a manner that if everyone did, everything would work out. Last I checked pregnancy gets your ALOT of consideration in America, but not special treatment under the law. I cant get pregnant, so I'll be damned if I'll support a person who thinks their condition grants them rights that are denied to me. I'd love to be able to tell all traffic police to piss off, but since society wouldn't work out so well if everyone did so.. Ignorance of the law, being female, or being pregnant is no excuse for noncompliance.

    I don't think they should have used a taser, but I also don't know how they should have proceeded. Law enforcement is a difficult and thankless job that, much like the military, you hear more about their mistakes than their positive encounters.

    she was being an ass, plain and simple, thought being pregnant gave her an "out" to act any way she wanted. she's lucky they tazed her instead of dragging her stupid ass out of the car by her freakin hair.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I never said it did. I simply asked you about your personal experience...

    what a dishonest load of crap. you asked about his personal experience in order to imply that if he had none his argument was invalid. don't try to play bull**** semantics games.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    funny that I gave you two examples from my personal experience and you ignored them both. this proves you are not interested in debating the original issue, but merely wish to deflect from your own misunderstanding and failure in order to play a childish game of "gotcha"
    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what a dishonest load of crap. you asked about his personal experience in order to imply that if he had none his argument was invalid. don't try to play bull**** semantics games.

    Go back to sleep Oscar or read my posts. I responded....

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Go back to sleep Oscar or read my posts. I responded....

    you responded with misdirection and nonsense. you tried to play off my first example by foolishly implying that an armed burglar would not try to kill someone who walked in on them committing a crime. you completely ignored the second example.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you responded with misdirection and nonsense. you tried to play off my first example by foolishly implying that an armed burglar would not try to kill someone who walked in on them committing a crime. you completely ignored the second example.
    I never said that I said....
    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    How do you know he would have beaten you to death?

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I never said that I said....

    your implication is that he would not have. leave the BS semantics games to thunder...you suck at it.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    your implication is that he would not have. leave the BS semantics games to thunder...you suck at it.

    you have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting

    No it was a simple question.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    No it was a simple question.
    and you got a simple answer.
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