View Poll Results: Is using a taser to arrest a noncoperative but nonviolent person "excessive force"

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If these:

    ... are "False choices", please enlighten me as to which choices were left out.

    I'm willing to accept that there might have been a reasonable and legitimate choice I haven't listed; however, the choices that were listed were not "false". They are choices available to the LEO's on the scene, legitimate police actions to handle an uncooperative subject. Some may not like it, but that's the way it is.
    The phrase "false choice" does not mean that the choices are illegitimate or "false" in and of themselves. It means that the choices presented leave out plausible alternatives. The choice you left out was removing her from the car physically without "throwing her to the ground" which they actually ended up doing and should have done initially instead of tasing her.

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    Re: Taser Use

    If the Supreme Court argues that using a taser is excessive force, then tasers should no longer be used. Otherwise you'd be picking and choosing, discriminating, on who gets to be tased.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    If the Supreme Court argues that using a taser is excessive force, then tasers should no longer be used. Otherwise you'd be picking and choosing, discriminating, on who gets to be tased.
    We also discriminate on who gets arrested: those accused of crimes, not every one. Congrats, you have made the most silly post in this whole thread.
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    These ant-taser arguments always baffle me.

    How many of the people who are so against tasers have actually been tased?

    I've been tased about 6 times by a police issue taser. Once for the certification and the others were doing the quick cartridge change drills.

    Everyone in my class agreed they'd choose taser over OC spray or the baton any day of the week.

    Sure when you quote the volts it sounds bad and the sound is intimidating but when it's over it's over.

    What's the alternative? "She's being resistant I guess we better just let her go?"

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We also discriminate on who gets arrested: those accused of crimes, not every one. Congrats, you have made the most silly post in this whole thread.
    Do you think it's fair that some should be subjected to excessive force and some shouldn't?

    Because as the story in the OP seems to indicate, using a taser is excessive force.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Do you think it's fair that some should be subjected to excessive force and some shouldn't?

    Because as the story in the OP seems to indicate, using a taser is excessive force.

    Wake...of course some must be made to comply via force....but never should excessive force be used EVER...

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Do you think it's fair that some should be subjected to excessive force and some shouldn't?

    Because as the story in the OP seems to indicate, using a taser is excessive force.
    Then you have not read the story in the OP. What the courts have ruled so far is that in some circumstances, using a taser is excessive force. Let me repeat that for you: in some circumstances. Not always.
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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    If the Supreme Court argues that using a taser is excessive force, then tasers should no longer be used. Otherwise you'd be picking and choosing, discriminating, on who gets to be tased.
    Wake if the supreme court deems tasers as excessive force thats the end game..tasers become history. I dont understand exactly what your intent was with the second statement...but every decision to tase or not to tase is picking and choosing when its APPROPRIATE to us the taser...you wouldnt want police to say Ok...we cant discriminate who we tase...so lets just tase everyone...police have to use their judgement on scene whether tasing is necessary or not....see my point ?

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    Re: Taser Use

    This article, "Taser Pain May Be Considered by Supreme Court as Excessive Force," made it seem that the Courts were considering whether or not taser pain [all taser pain?] would be considered excessive force. If that's not the case, alright.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This article, "Taser Pain May Be Considered by Supreme Court as Excessive Force," made it seem that the Courts were considering whether or not taser pain [all taser pain?] would be considered excessive force. If that's not the case, alright.
    Ok I understand where you were coming from...but what that meant was it MAY be heard by the supreme court....

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