View Poll Results: Is using a taser to arrest a noncoperative but nonviolent person "excessive force"

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    OK, let me give an example: people are sitting in the doorway of a business as part of a protest, clearly trespassing. The police order them to leave, they refuse. They have their arms linked so just physically picking them up would be difficult at best. They are nonviolent. How do you get them to disperse or arrest them?
    If the''re sitting in a doorway, it can't be too many people. Therefore, the police should attempt to pick them up and force their arms apart anyway. If necessary/possible, get police dogs to intimidate them so they'll loosen their grip. If that doesn't work, pepper spray or LRADs.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not think any one is trying to get tasers taken away from police. They are clearly a useful tool.
    I wasnt referring to any indviduals wanted tasers taken...the courts very well may take them in the future...all im saying is that either way the job has to get done...and I believe its going to be more dangerous creating more injuries...and how could it not...instead of tasing a person and taking them into custody...every refusal to comply becomes hands on physical...

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its always split...in the end it doesnt matter if tasers are gone or not...more people will get hurt in the process is all...thats my opinion
    the problem I have with tasers is that when they are used, the officers have no way of knowing what maladies the perp might have .. such as a heart condition... that can make the situation a life or death emergency in a flash.
    ya smack someone with a baton across the arm, we kinda know what the effects are( bruising, maybe a broken bone).... we don't know what the effects of 50kv on someone is going to be.( i hate hearing about someone ,with a heart condition, dying after being tazed... especially knowing the cop didn't want to kill them)

    physical force is necessary sometimes, sure thing... but I think physical force is employed too quick sometimes.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm just saying walk a mile in their shoes before declaring judgement. Cops get alot of bad rap for doing their jobs. They put up with **** that you and I would consider beating someone half to death over- well, maybe not you, but I.
    Did you even read my post? Did you not see the part where I talked about cops getting a bad rap, how much crap they have to put up with and how that in addition to everything else probably weighs on them? I said that I understand it, but that I still don't think that the attitude lpast expressed is okay. You just repeated everything that I said to me. Got it yet?

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    If the''re sitting in a doorway, it can't be too many people. Therefore, the police should attempt to pick them up and force their arms apart anyway. If necessary/possible, get police dogs to intimidate them so they'll loosen their grip. If that doesn't work, pepper spray or LRADs.
    Know what you act like people are tased in every single situation.....police have to worry about crowds forming...they cannot afford to take too long to get anything done..in a major city...you have to consider that not all depts are the same...cops in a small rural town can take as much time as they want to coax someone...in NYC...CHI..Philly LA you cant do that...you have to get in and get it done...

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No your wrong...most of the public treat us very well and understand...
    I never said any differently.

    its societies dirtbags and criminals and idiots that have a big problem with any authority at all that are our problem
    So do you deny that police brutality exists?

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Note: the woman is 7 months pregnant. Trying to forcibly remove her could be a greater danger to her and her pregnancy than tasing.
    I thought about that. Although, I think tasing automatically puts her in an amount of danger that attempting to forcibly remove her without excessive violence does not. I tend to think that 2-3 male cops could remove her from her car without hurting her too badly.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    the problem I have with tasers is that when they are used, the officers have no way of knowing what maladies the perp might have .. such as a heart condition... that can make the situation a life or death emergency in a flash.
    ya smack someone with a baton across the arm, we kinda know what the effects are( bruising, maybe a broken bone).... we don't know what the effects of 50kv on someone is going to be.( i hate hearing about someone ,with a heart condition, dying after being tazed... especially knowing the cop didn't want to kill them)

    physical force is necessary sometimes, sure thing... but I think physical force is employed too quick sometimes.

    There were years of testing done before they were approved and deemed safe...all cops in academy get tased themselves...are some taser happy, sure, Ive acknowledged over and over there are bad cops there are cops that do bad things, commit crimes, the whole gamut of scumbag..to that there is no denial whatsoever.....My sons in law tell me from their training they are told that tasers do not stop a pacemakers...if you tase someone that has an unknown heart condition they can die of course...you hit a guy with a baton and physically subdue him hes dieing too..its all about the heart rate going up to a point a weak heart fails.....I saw many a heart attack from physical contact...perps and cops alike...I believe tasers overall are the lesser of the evils

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    nothing wrong with being an alpha male on the job... but professionalism and good judgement should come before the whole " obey my authoritaaay or else" schtick.
    Point to where Ive said anything different than that...heres what I said..and Ill say it again...once your placed under arrest...your going one way or another...and I stand by that.

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    Re: Taser Use

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Note: the woman is 7 months pregnant. Trying to forcibly remove her could be a greater danger to her and her pregnancy than tasing.
    There ya go...good sound common sense...the taser imho was by far the best way to go and the proof of that is the end result...shes fine

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