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Is This Ad Fair?

Is this ad fair?

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Re: Is This Add Fair?

tessaesque said:
It's a distortion of the truth. (See the thread I created)
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I suggest you complain then, to the "Distorters"...as they are the folks "Lying".

The AD is simply using them, not creating them.
 
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tecoyah said:
I suggest you complain then, to the "Distorters"...as they are the folks "Lying".

The AD is simply using them, not creating them.
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If the add is utilizing distortions to make a point it is also distorting the truth...the people creating the ad are culpable for the information they choose to endorse and distribute.
 
Arbo said:
What a confused rant.
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When someone says something that another cannot understand or wont acknowledge they call it a rant...thanks for the compliment :)
 
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Lies and distortions are always fair in politics. But you know that of course. Using the words of politicians in his own party is more effective way to lie and distort.
 
lpast said:
When someone says something that another cannot understand or wont acknowledge they call it a rant...thanks for the compliment :)
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You go on about good companies then jump right into similar but bad, never making a point, but complaining. That is pretty much a rant.
 
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Yes, very fair to use words of other Republicans, or anyone else for that matter. The debate on this needs to continue until the whole truth on venture capital is explained enough for ‘most’ of the electorate to understand (if this is possible). If not the premise of VC will remain like some boogie man which pols will continue to instill fear/hate in the electorate.

It is also fair to analyze, not ‘attack’, Bain’s record for the same reason above. If Bain broke the law this needs to be uncovered. If not they need to be described for what they are and move on.
 
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tessaesque said:
If the add is utilizing distortions to make a point it is also distorting the truth...the people creating the ad are culpable for the information they choose to endorse and distribute.
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This is almost identical to what I was going to say.

If the the people creating the ad knew that it was using distortions, then they are also guilty of spreading misinformation. It's neither fair nor ethical and not a style I would endorse.
 
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If Obama had been a good president he could basically ignore Romney. He could just run on his record if his record was one to be proud of. The fact that he feels the need to destroy Romney speaks volumes; even Obama thinks his presidency has been an abject failure.
 
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grip said:
This is almost identical to what I was going to say.

If the the people creating the ad knew that it was using distortions, then they are also guilty of spreading misinformation. It's neither fair nor ethical and not a style I would endorse.
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What politician, political group, or pac has never spread misinformation? The fact that they are in the 'business' that they are in just about always means they are guilty of such things.
 
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Arbo said:
What politician, political group, or pac has never spread misinformation? The fact that they are in the 'business' that they are in just about always means they are guilty of such things.
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I didn't say it wasn't allowed or was illegal but if we're going to complain about the lack of character in our candidates, then we shouldn't support tactics that are reflective of their poor quality.

I've always thought that for people to say "politics are dirty and if you don't play the game you can't win" is a big cop out. You don't have to be a saint, nor a crumb-bum either.

If someone does something rotten and after being called on it says, "well they did it first" that doesn't excuse them from culpability.
 
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notquiteright said:
Back when BushI and St. Ronald faced off, BushI called Ronnie's economic policies- 'voo-doo' economics. It stuck for a minute till Ronnie hugged BushI for the VP, it was interesting to say the least to see BushI back pedal.
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Yet it still caught on and was used by the Dems. Still is, though not as commonly.


Helix said:
1. i hate negative ads. i'd prefer to see them disappear.
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I think negative ads have value. I want and need to hear if the other candidate is being dishonest. I want and need to hear the failures and inconsistencies of the other candidate. I wouldn't blindly believe said negative information, but it gives me a jump-start to know where to do my own research so that I can verify for myself. The other candidate certainly isn't going to volunteer that kind of information.

In moderation. I don't want or need constant negative ads. A candidate that balances negative ads with positive ads is preferable and reflects well on said candidate.
 
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Another oxymoron....a fair ad.
no, I did not watch it, nor will I.
IMO, advertisements are propaganda.
Politics are bloodless war.......
No wonder so few are willing to participate in either....
And no-one "gets" the message....
 
tecoyah said:
Point one) It seems as if this is being attributed to Obama himself, when in fact he likely had very little (if anything) to do with it.
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Who is blaming Obama for the ad?
 
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Take Sarah Palin at her word. It is absolutely fair.
 
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I've always thought that for people to say "politics are dirty and if you don't play the game you can't win" is a big cop out. You don't have to be a saint, nor a crumb-bum either.
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Can you think of any politicians, specifically that ran for president, that did not cross that line, that never threw mud, that won?

If someone does something rotten and after being called on it says, "well they did it first" that doesn't excuse them from culpability.
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True.
 
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It's kind of funny. This was alright, when other republican candidates were criticizing Romney for being and "Vulture Capitolist," but now the democrats replaying it back isn't okay? That's biting them in the butt. Sorry folks, but I don't think this is even close to "Swift Boat" tactics. And the republicans haven't really even started many negative ads yet. We'll see.
 
Re: Is This Add Fair?

An ad, any ad, is specifically produced based upon a bias position to begin with. It is meant to persuade the viewer and can never be deemed "fair".
 
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Arbo said:
Can you think of any politicians, specifically that ran for president, that did not cross that line, that never threw mud, that won?
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I know realistically politics is a game of appearances, not truth. They know perception is everything and project images that are patently false.

I believe it's fair to run ads showing an opponents missteps, failures or deficiencies but not to promote untruths, even if the other side does it. I'd rather see a candidate talk about their successes and proposals on the issues and differentiate why their solutions are better than there oppositions.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Expect more adds like this from Obama, he can’t talk abouthis achievements as president, he has none.
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I guess you missed this ad that highlights the President's achievements:

 
And this one:

 
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grip said:
I'd rather see a candidate talk about their successes and proposals on the issues and differentiate why their solutions are better than there oppositions.
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So would I. But even most of the ad's I have ever seen that talk about their successes are most often half truths as well.
 
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I didn't see a "don't care" option so I didn't vote...
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I saw the commercial but as I said if his record was what he claims he would have no need to atack Romney, his reelection would be a cake walk.
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Before you said he wouldn't be able to make any ads on his accomplishments, and he already has, proving you wrong.
 
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