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Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

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Lokiate said:
There's plenty of reason to get riled up. It may not be a big deal from an intellectual standpoint, but it's huge problem in the real world. There's hate speech, overt prejudice, racial slurs openly used, such as "cracker" and "honkey", all the way up to people being assaulted and/or killed because of their skin color, and it's not racist because the government keeps the black man down, which is a provably false assertion in and of itself, and people actually believe this crap.
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Saying that something isn't racist isn't the same thing as saying that violence shouldn't be taken seriously. Like I said, nothing to get riled up over.
 
Lokiate said:
No, but they can sure as **** put a gun in my face because of the color of my skin. You tell me what's worse, not getting a job because you're the "wrong color" (which is actually illegal) or living with the fear that, at any given time, some piece of **** with a 9 can pull a trigger and end your life because you're the wrong color.
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And individual can hate another. And no one is saying that is alright. Only making a distinction between two different things. You could put a gun and my face, or me in yours, and it would not be racism.
 
Lokiate said:
This is a bull**** argument, and you know it. Who gives a **** if it effects the whole race? There are people who will attack, murder, and rape others just because of their race. **** society, and some perception of governmental powers, that's just you skipping out of the reality of the situation.
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YOu're too emotional. Back up a bit. Breath. What I'm discussing is a distinction in definition. Nothing more. I think it is an important distinction, but not anything should ilicit an emotional reaction.
 
Luna Tick said:
That's a good point. I wonder if what happened to Reginald Denny isn't really racist because no government power was behind it.
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Deny was savagely beaten during a riot, a mob mentality issue. he was saved by some reasonable black people who left their homes and risked personal danger to get to him. But, that was not systematic institutional no matter how you measure it.

jamesrage said:
Number 2 is totally dependent on the first and 3rd definition. It still does not depend on who is in charge like many racist lib-tards try to claim it is in order to excuse their own racism.
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You are incorrect. Sorry.
 
teamosil said:
Well, one can make an argument that racism is a broad system of the oppression of a race, in which case in the US at present there is no anti-white racism.

But in the smaller sense of individuals treating one another poorly because of their race, sure, there can be anti-white racism. But, IMO, the amount of fixation on anti-white racism we see in this country is totally out of proportion with the severity of the problem. In the US if a white person and a black or hispanic person apply for the same job with the same resume, the white person is 2.4 times more likely to get an interview. The balance overwhelmingly favors whites and disadvantages blacks and hispanics. So, focusing on anti-white racism is kind of silly. It's sort of like obsessing about fixing a leaky faucet on the Titanic while it's sinking. Sure, any leakage of water into the Titanic is a bad thing and we should ideally fight against all leaks, but when you have a giant gash in the side from an iceberg, that needs to be your focus.
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no you cannot, your definition is silly. racism is normally expressed by on or a group of individuals against another individual or group. Such as blacks physically assaulting a white and yelling this is for Trayvon. The only INSTITUTIONALIZED racism in this country is affirmative action and in many cases this was created by whites in order to curry favor with blacks. racism in this country is not imposed by organizations but independent actors mainly. and since a black can assault or treat a white badly as easy as a white can so do to a black, racism is something that infects people of all races

I know when I was applying to law schools and later when I was recruiting students to play for an Ivy league team and I was aware of admissions policies blacks with mediocre grades and resumes were getting accepted ahead of far more qualified whites, asians and Jews
 
Boo Radley said:
Deny was savagely beaten during a riot, a mob mentality issue. he was saved by some reasonable black people who left their homes and risked personal danger to get to him. But, that was not systematic institutional no matter how you measure it.
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It was not institutional, but it was racist. When a person gets beaten nearly to death because of his skin color, any reasonable person would call that racist. This whole notion that only institutional racism is racism is simply not a reasonable idea.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
IF you listen to any speeches from anyone in the organization its all the same. "We hate white people because they oppressed us, we must have a violent revolution against the crackers"
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I think lots of white racists and some who are not but tired of the yapping would love the NBP party to start a race war. It would last all of about a week
 
Luna Tick said:
That's a good point. I wonder if what happened to Reginald Denny isn't really racist because no government power was behind it.
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most of the klan's actions stopped having government support years ago, The WHITE ARYAN RESISTANCE's hate was never supported by the government. Both are racist groups
 
Luna Tick said:
It was not institutional, but it was racist. When a person gets beaten nearly to death because of his skin color, any reasonable person would call that racist. This whole notion that only institutional racism is racism is simply not a reasonable idea.
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It's only an unreasonable idea if you believe that racism is more than institutional racism. It's not unreasonable in and of itself.
 
Luna Tick said:
It was not institutional, but it was racist. When a person gets beaten nearly to death because of his skin color, any reasonable person would call that racist. This whole notion that only institutional racism is racism is simply not a reasonable idea.
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There was more going on at that moment. Remember, as black man was beaten and those who did it at that time had walked. The institution had allowed for the beating.

But do keep in mind two things:

1) I said there were different diffintions.

2) prejudice and violence are bad in and of themselfs. No need to try to make them all encompasing.
 
As nearly everyone else has said, yes racism crosses all racial and cultural lines. Living in SoCal for decades, I saw it firsthand, but what I saw was racism between Blacks and Koreans, and between Hispanics and VietNamese. Talk about hatred so intense you could slice it with a butter knife.

I never experienced any "white" racism. Where I lived blacks, Koreans, Hispanics and VietNamese all got along well with caucasians... but boy, howdy, did they hate each other! I had a friend who was a Chinese immigrant who was educated here and became a top-tier successful business woman. She hated Japanese people with a pink and purple anger.

In Africa, there is institutionalized tribal "racism". All the tribes may belong to the black race, but the hatred running along tribal lines is visceral and genocidal.

Anyone who defines racism as a strictly white-against-black thing is woefully ignorant of the world we live in.
 
Boo Radley said:
Deny was savagely beaten during a riot, a mob mentality issue. he was saved by some reasonable black people who left their homes and risked personal danger to get to him. But, that was not systematic institutional no matter how you measure it.
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He was still chosen specifically because of his race and for no other reason. The fact that he was saved by people of the same race as those who attacked him makes the attack no less racist, but rather points out that racism is an individual trait and that not all within a particular race or ethnicity suffer from it.
 
radcen said:
He was still chosen specifically because of his race and for no other reason. The fact that he was saved by people of the same race as those who attacked him makes the attack no less racist, but rather points out that racism is an individual trait and that not all within a particular race or ethnicity suffer from it.
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Chosen by a mob, within a context, not by the system or the institutions. There is a difference between the two. No one is arguing what happened to him wasn't wrong, but only that there is a difference.
 
Boo Radley said:
Chosen by a mob, within a context, not by the system or the institutions. There is a difference between the two. No one is arguing what happened to him wasn't wrong, but only that there is a difference.
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Would you say the same thing if a mob of whites screeched, "Kill the nigga" and pulled out a man because of his race, beating him nearly to death? There is no difference. Racists of any hue will find power in the mob mentality to openly practice their racism. That's exactly what happened with the Denny beating.
 
TurtleDude said:
I think lots of white racists and some who are not but tired of the yapping would love the NBP party to start a race war. It would last all of about a week
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It wouldnt even be a war. It would be like 3 people get shot. THE END.
 
DiAnna said:
Would you say the same thing if a mob of whites screeched, "Kill the nigga" and pulled out a man because of his race, beating him nearly to death? There is no difference. Racists of any hue will find power in the mob mentality to openly practice their racism. That's exactly what happened with the Denny beating.
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Well, we had the Klan. Remember my grandfather burning a cross in my yard because my mother was an uppity northerner.

But, if the roles were reveresed, with no institutional support, yes, I would feel the same. I denounce both, and both are a result of hatred, both prejudice. We're only disputing a very small point here. Remember, cops didn't turn a blind eye toward Deny. Courts didn't find a way to excuse it. Citizens by and large didn't say Deny deserved it. The other way around, we can't be sure it would be the same. And that is the difference.

I admit I'm always surprised by how people act during this discussion. You would think I was saying doing things like was done to Deny was OK. I would never do that. I just want a proper distinction made.
 
Boo Radley said:
Well, we had the Klan. Remember my grandfather burning a cross in my yard because my mother was an uppity northerner.

But, if the roles were reveresed, with no institutional support, yes, I would feel the same. I denounce both, and both are a result of hatred, both prejudice. We're only disputing a very small point here. Remember, cops didn't turn a blind eye toward Deny. Courts didn't find a way to excuse it. Citizens by and large didn't say Deny deserved it. The other way around, we can't be sure it would be the same. And that is the difference.

I admit I'm always surprised by how people act during this discussion. You would think I was saying doing things like was done to Deny was OK. I would never do that. I just want a proper distinction made.
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What "distinction"?
 
DiAnna said:
What "distinction"?
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That there is a difference between individual prejudice and instutitional racism. Both are bad, and both can be violent, but there is a difference. As a white male, absent the violence, I can laugh and walk away. I will not be hurt in any way. Where there is institutional racism, that is not the case. And here, we have had institutional racism.
 
Is it really that hard to look at an dictionary?

rac·ism   [rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
 
Sometimes, I take my time and really read responses then I read them again...this is one of those threads, I read and reread some of the posts before I posted because I have decades of first hand knowledge about this subject. NO, I didnt read it in a text book, no I didnt gleen it from lectures by a professor....I lived it and breathed it day in and day out.
There is absolutely no doubt that racism exists between races, minority and majority. There is no doubt that ethnic hatred is alive and exists.
Anyone that lives in a truly urban area, knows this firsthand. There may be textbook reasons for it, but racism is racism...and it exists with all races.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Is it really that hard to look at an dictionary?

rac·ism   [rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
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Which means the separatists like the KKK who don't want to "rule blacks" they just want them to GTFO, are not technically racists.

I'm sure we all feel a little more enlightened now. My enlightenment quotient just shot up a few points.
 
Boo Radley said:
That there is a difference between individual prejudice and instutitional racism. Both are bad, and both can be violent, but there is a difference. As a white male, absent the violence, I can laugh and walk away. I will not be hurt in any way. Where there is institutional racism, that is not the case. And here, we have had institutional racism.
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Regarding your last sentence, yes we have it here. So do other places. We don't hold an exclusive on that. I can't help but sense some need to point out self-guilt, or something. (Self, as in our society, not you individually)

Sure, there's a difference, and it will often take different forms, but institutional racism wasn't really the point of the thread. Ok, it's acknowledged. Can we get back to the intent of the discussion?
 
radcen said:
Regarding your last sentence, yes we have it here. So do other places. We don't hold an exclusive on that. I can't help but sense some need to point out self-guilt, or something. (Self, as in our society, not you individually)

Sure, there's a difference, and it will often take different forms, but institutional racism wasn't really the point of the thread. Ok, it's acknowledged. Can we get back to the intent of the discussion?
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Actually, the thread is asking if there is anti-white discrimination and Boo's entire point has revolved around whether anti-white prejudice can actually be called racism if it's not institutional, so he is on topic...
 
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