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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    15 yrs ago I would have said you were 100% right....today your just half right. There is systematic anti white racism, not to the level of white on black racism but it is there now....Eric Holder is one example...
    Actually, there are countless examples of systemic anti-white racism in the media, as well as in employment and education. The anti-white racism in the media is most readily observable in the news media's reporting of certain crimes, the death of Trayvon Martin being the most recent. The Christian-Newsom murders are another example, as was the Duke Lacrosse Fiasco. Of course, the enforcement of Affirmative Action policies results in thousands of instances where more qualified whites are deliberately passed over for admissions, employment, and promotions in the name of ensuring racial diversity of opportunity. Thus, while it can certainly be argued that minorities are often the victims of institutionalized racism, it cannot be argued that whites are not also such victims.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Actually, there are countless examples of systemic anti-white racism in the media, as well as in employment and education. The anti-white racism in the media is most readily observable in the news media's reporting of certain crimes, the death of Trayvon Martin being the most recent. The Christian-Newsom murders are another example, as was the Duke Lacrosse Fiasco. Of course, the enforcement of Affirmative Action policies results in thousands of instances where more qualified whites are deliberately passed over for admissions, employment, and promotions in the name of ensuring racial diversity of opportunity. Thus, while it can certainly be argued that minorities are often the victims of institutionalized racism, it cannot be argued that whites are not also such victims.
    Somebody does not know the difference between systemic and systematic. Actually, they don't even know what Affirmative Action is.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Somebody does not know the difference between systemic and systematic. Actually, they don't even know what Affirmative Action is.
    Perhaps, you would like to explain?
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Perhaps, you would like to explain?
    Systemic and systematic are not the same thing, a dictionary could explain why. Systematic antiwhite racism doesnt exist. Not on any visible scale at least. The media (at least in the US context) is primarily owned by whites so how can there possibly be a systematic antiwhite prejudice in it? As far as your little swipe at Obama and holder. You just see it(the racism) now that a black president and AG are around. Not that they´ve done anything significantly different than the president or AG before them. Actually, most policies of the Bush administration are still firmly in place.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Racism is racism. There is no white racism, black racism, it's all racism, all fueled by ignorance and prejudice.

    Of course, once the racist gets into power, then racism does take on a whole new uglier face.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    Systemic and systematic are not the same thing, a dictionary could explain why.

    sys·tem·ic   [si-stem-ik]
    adjective
    1.
    of or pertaining to a system.
    2.
    Physiology, Pathology .
    a.
    pertaining to or affecting the body as a whole.
    b.
    pertaining to or affecting a particular body system.

    Systemic | Define Systemic at Dictionary.com



    SYSTEMIC as in when a particular news event is reported with the same peculiar bias by nearly every source of news, as if the entire news media were infected with the same bug.

    Get it now?

    Systematic antiwhite racism doesnt exist.
    I never said it did. However, come to think of it, Affirmative Action policies can be described as an example of systematic anti-white racism in large numbers of cases.

    Not on any visible scale at least.
    It's visible if you look hard enough, especially at the effects of A.A. policy upon poor whites, where both systemic and systematic racial bias is clearly observable if you care enough to pay attention to it.

    The media (at least in the US context) is primarily owned by whites so how can there possibly be a systematic antiwhite prejudice in it?
    I do not believe there is systematic anti-white prejudice in the media, and have never asserted that there was. There is, however, systemic anti-white bias in the news media from time to time. It is readily observable in the examples I have already listed. The fact that the media is primarily owned by whites does in no way negate the fact that such bias exists, although it does make one wonder what the hell is going on.

    As far as your little swipe at Obama and holder. You just see it(the racism) now that a black president and AG are around. Not that they´ve done anything significantly different than the president or AG before them. Actually, most policies of the Bush administration are still firmly in place.
    I do not recall even mentioning Obama or Holder. Have you been drinking?
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Actually, there are countless examples of systemic anti-white racism in the media, as well as in employment and education. The anti-white racism in the media is most readily observable in the news media's reporting of certain crimes, the death of Trayvon Martin being the most recent. The Christian-Newsom murders are another example, as was the Duke Lacrosse Fiasco. Of course, the enforcement of Affirmative Action policies results in thousands of instances where more qualified whites are deliberately passed over for admissions, employment, and promotions in the name of ensuring racial diversity of opportunity. Thus, while it can certainly be argued that minorities are often the viectims of institutionalized racism, it cannot be argued that whites are not also such victims.
    There is such a thing as Race (as both Wake and You state and we all know on some level), but is Un-PC to say so. Its also less technically correct than using "indigenous peoples".

    If you send your blood in to the NatGeo Genographic project, they will give you what percent you are of each (11) "indigenous people". (Be it subsaharan africa, Ausralian Aboriginal, etc). Races.

    What the always strident and Wrong Cmaikoz is citing is 'Social science'/PC Opinion, Not science.
    And since he's been refuted, he's not just wrong, he's Lying.

    ie, in the first string on this in the science section on this:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/scienc...post1060508598

    Yet maikoz repeats the lies he likes. His personal racialist politics.
    Be it economics or genetics, this guy is always wrong, and ironically, dismissive of those who Crush him.
    In fact once you do Crush him badly enough, he will [have to] put you on 'ignore'.
    (unless he thinks he's got you on something, then he'll respond. How straight is that?)

    But even withing the context of the 'old' 3 races, there is Plenty of meat on the bone. In fact IN The bones.
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    NOVA | Does Race Exist?
    Those two being C Loring Brace, "an Antagonists persepective"
    [..........] and
    George W. Gill, a Proponents Perspective".
    The latter:
    Slightly Over Half of all biological/physical anthropologists today believe in the Traditional view that human Races are biologically Valid and Real. Furthermore, they tend to see nothing wrong in defining and naming the different populations of Homo sapiens. The Other Half of the biological anthropology community believes either that the traditional racial categories for humankind are arbitrary and meaningless, or that at a minimum there are better ways to look at human variation than through the "racial lens."

    ... Partly this is because for more than a decade now U.S. national and regional forensic anthropology organizations have deemed it necessary to quantitatively test both traditional and new methods for accuracy in legal cases. I volunteered for this task of testing methods and developing new methods in the late 1980s. What have I found? Where do I now stand in the "great race debate?" Can I see truth on one side or the other—or on both sides—in this argument?
    Bones don't lie
    First, I have found that forensic anthropologists attain a High Degree of Accuracy in determining geographic Racial affinities (white, black, American Indian, etc.) by utilizing both new and traditional methods of bone analysis. Many well-conducted studies were reported in the late 1980s and 1990s that test methods objectively for percentage of correct placement. Numerous individual methods involving midfacial measurements, femur traits, and so on are over 80% accurate alone, and in combination produce very high levels of accuracy. No forensic anthropologist would make a racial assessment based upon justone of these methods, but in combination they can make very reliable assessments, just as in determining sex or age. In other words, multiple criteria are the key to success in all of these determinations. ... My students ask, "How can this be? They can identify skeletons as to Racial origins but do not believe in race!"...

    "The idea that race is 'only skin deep' is simply not true."

    [.......]The "reality of race" therefore depends more on the definition of reality than on the definition of race. If we choose to accept the system of racial taxonomy that physical anthropologists have traditionally established—major races: black, white, etc.—then one can classify human skeletons within it just as well as one can living humans. The bony traits of the nose, mouth, femur, and cranium are just as revealing to a good osteologist as skin color, hair form, nose form, and lips to the perceptive observer of living humanity. I have been able to prove to myself over the years, in actual legal cases, that I am more accurate at assessing race from skeletal remains than from looking at living people standing before me
    Seeing both sides
    Where I stand today in the "great race debate" after a decade and a half of pertinent skeletal research is clearly more on the side of the reality of race than on the "race denial" side. Yet I do see why many other physical anthropologists are able to ignore or deny the race concept.... Morphological characteristics, however, like skin color, hair form, bone traits, eyes, and lips tend to follow geographic boundaries coinciding often with climatic zones. This is not surprising since the selective forces of climate are probably the primary forces of nature that have shaped human races with regard not only to skin color and hair form but also the underlying bony structures of the nose, cheekbones, etc....."

    On political correctness
    Those who believe that the concept of race is valid do not discredit the notion of clines, however. Yet those with the Clinical perspective who believe that races are not real do try to discredit the evidence of skeletal biology. Why this bias from the "race denial" faction? This bias seems to stem largely from socio-political motivation and Not science at all. For the time being at least, the people in "race denial" are in "reality denial" as well. Their motivation (a positive one) is that they have come to believe that the race concept is socially dangerous. In other words, they have convinced themselves that race promotes racism. Therefore, they have pushed the Politically Correct Agenda that human races are not biologically real, no matter what the Evidence.

    How can we combat racism if no one is willing to talk about race?"

    Consequently, at the beginning of the 21st century, even as a majority of biological anthropologists favor the reality of the race perspective, not one introductory textbook of physical anthropology even presents that perspective as a possibility. In a case as flagrant as this, we are not dealing with science but rather with blatant, politically motivated censorship. But, you may ask, are the politically correct actually correct? Is there a relationship between thinking about race and racism?..."
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Well, in fairness... We're #1!!

    American ingenuity and all that.







    Go America!!
    See that, whites were forced to drink from a different water fountain.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    See that, whites were forced to drink from a different water fountain.
    Yeah, its almost as bad as being called a kraut during the 70s even though Germans were responsible for the mass murder of millions. The horror. I weep for the children and grandchildren of Germans who have to live with the anguish of being called names. You hear that guys? White people were the ones forced to drink out of a different water fountain.
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