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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Well, at least you provided a general link to the scholarly articles I was reading earlier. Thanks.
    So you already had this info? In that case, it was dishonest of you to pretend you didn't have access to the science when you did.

    I was more wanting to hear Cma's concise reasoning why he believe race doesn't exist. It's that simple.
    No, it's that stupid to want to hear one individuals explanation when the science has already been posted.

    You asked for the science (even though you already had it), and now you've got your response. Asking for more is the cyber-equivalent of throwing a hissy fit because you can't find anything to argue about
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Well, at least you provided a general link to the scholarly articles I was reading earlier. Thanks.

    I was more wanting to hear Cma's concise reasoning why he believe race doesn't exist. It's that simple.
    I don't believe "race" isn't biologically or genetically real; I observe the fact.

    Go to the appropriate thread, where that has been explained briefly and at length, upwards/downwards/sideways, forward and back, and in fifteen different flavors. It's not the topic HERE.

    Would you like someone to hold your hand and give you a lollipop while you're at it, or can you manage to go there on your own?
    I've moved on to a better forum (scienceforums.net). Facts matter, and I don't have the time or energy for putting up with the pretense that they don't. PM me if you'd like me to get in touch with you when I'm done developing my own forum system, likely towards the end of 2013.

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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    Would you like someone to hold your hand and give you a lollipop while you're at it, or can you manage to go there on your own?
    Not "someone"; It has to be YOU

    If YOU don't explain the science to him, he's going to keep throwing temper tantrums
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post

    One need not be in power to harbor or act upon racist ideology. One does have to have political power, however, to participate in racist oppression.
    And what exactly amounts to "racial oppression?" If a gang of racist blacks beats a white man to death for no other reason than his being white, is this not racist? More to the point, is this not oppression? After all, the man is dead.

    One does not require any more political power than is available on a street corner in the poorest neighborhood in town in order to participate in racial oppression of the most extreme.

    Racism is indeed bad, but it's neither universal nor impulsive.
    Actually, if human history (let alone human prehistory) says anything, it says that racism--indeed, genocidal racism--is most definitely universal and impulsive in the capacity that it is apparently instinctually driven, so pervasively, and so casually, that it can even be celebrated in such powerful moral directories as the Bible and the Koran without so much as the slightest notice (let alone pronounced moral condemnation) by their most avid fans and proselytizers.

    It is widely taught.
    This begs the question: "When exactly was it initially taught and why?"

    It is certainly true that racist ideologies have been passed down through the ages, being inculcated into the mindsets of each succeeding generation, to varying degrees, by the generation that came before it. However, such etiological analysis inevitably leads to an abysmal eternal regress; and thus, in itself, hardly satisfies our quest for self-understanding nor advances our quest for self-actualization. In fact, it leads us nowhere, and with nothing but yet another pressing question: "Have we always been this way?"

    Institutionalized practices, on the other hand, do not require ideological commitment for their impact.
    Institutionalized racism is the inevitable (and hardly mysterious) result of successive generations of racist lore, which itself is the product of primeval racist impulses that are so ubiquitous and subconscious that they typically remain unchallenged in the absence of a society so cognitively and culturally advanced that it can conjure and promulgate ideas to the contrary.

    And yet here we are, already poised on the edge of where I expected the thread to go: it was framed as a nonsensical opinion poll about a factual matter, and within a short time it has already turned to a growing case of denial of obvious privilege, promotion of implied false equivalency, serial intellectual dishonesty (in preemptively "responding" to claims never made, and projection of stances and views not actually held by posters participating in the thread).
    Do not despair. Keep in mind that humanity has made enormous strides over the last few hundred years in regards to its conscious recognition of the racist ideologies it has progenerated across the ages, and their consequent institutions. Such sociological achievement, on a near global scale, is unprecedented in annals of human experience and bodes well for the future of the species.

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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by thecrazyfool View Post
    I happen to agree with him. The majority of folk, if it were put to referendum, would not have voted for the passage of the civil rights act, and the trans-formative effects it has had on American society. It was therefore, naturally, a more powerful minority (lawmakers) overpowering majority opinion.
    That doesn't make a lick of sense. Why would prohibiting discrimination against minorities in some situations overpower the majority? All it does, at most, is bring them a small step closer to having equal power, and even if each individual minority had totally equal power, which of course they are nowhere close to, they still would be the minority so the majority could still outvote them...
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Sure there can be racism against white people. It's just not really important since white people have all the money and power and other races aren't in a position to do anything to systematically harm whites. When it comes to the comparison of whites against any other race (in white-dominant countries like the United States) the inverse is very much true. We have all the power, and we can and do use it hurt non-whites. So, our racism is the only racism with practical consequences.
    It's like you don't even know who the POTUS is and who his attorney general is.

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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Sure there can be racism against white people. It's just not really important since white people have all the money and power and other races aren't in a position to do anything to systematically harm whites. When it comes to the comparison of whites against any other race (in white-dominant countries like the United States) the inverse is very much true. We have all the power, and we can and do use it hurt non-whites. So, our racism is the only racism with practical consequences.
    Do you realize that what you just said is every bit an expression of the most appalling racism? You might just as well have said that black people are stupid and lazy, and you could not have been any more racist.

    The overwhelming majority of white people, especially the white people with whom the overwhelming majority of minorities will have any social interaction, have little or no power of any practical consequence.

    Racism against white people can be pretty damn important when you are the victim. Perhaps, this is a lesson you will learn the hard way.

    Clue for you, pal: Self-effacing racism is racism just the same.

    Anyone with the slightest degree of perception into the human psyche (including non-whites) will see right through your pathetic reaction formation and likely treat you accordingly. You should be careful.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Of course there is anti-white racism. Does it happen on a systematic level? No. Does it happen at a social level? Absolutely.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Of course there is anti-white racism. Does it happen on a systematic level? No. Does it happen at a social level? Absolutely.
    15 yrs ago I would have said you were 100% right....today your just half right. There is systematic anti white racism, not to the level of white on black racism but it is there now....Eric Holder is one example...

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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    15 yrs ago I would have said you were 100% right....today your just half right. There is systematic anti white racism, not to the level of white on black racism but it is there now....Eric Holder is one example...
    Er, wait, you understand that Fox is only pretend, right?
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