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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Racism is a learned behavior. It can be learned by anyone, regardless of their own race or ethnic group. To assert that it can be limitted to the racial/ethnic group 'in power' is an absurd argument, often used by some to explain racism by any other group as merely a 'reaction' to having been exposed to it. It is natural, and not racist at all, to generally associate with those that you feel most comfortable with. This is seen in nearly all social settings, that tend to 'naturally' segregate, based on many factors, including race. I think that we all tend to associate with those we identify with as similar, for example at the beach or park we often tend to go toward a group that appears desirable to us based on age, race and gender composition. It is rare indeed for the young to seek out a group of the old, for the single to seek a group of couples or for the Spanish speaking to seek out a group of English speaking people.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    That's weird, because a few posts ago, you said:

    And now, you're saying that it's an accurate measurement. Why the change?
    Both statements are true.
    Blacks and whites have genetic differences, that can define them as different races.

    Of course, that doesn't mean that the former statement is untrue.
    This isn't that difficult of a concept to grasp.
    I understand that race is more fluid than what typical descriptions define.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Actually, everything I said was accurate. First, whether or not defining race as a social construct is accurate is not a matter of whether or not "people know the difference," it's a matter of whether or not race is socially constructed or not. Second, the definition of race that most people use and that was being used in this thread is a social construct. Therefore, your original comment that referring to race as a social construct is merely "pc, feel good garbage" is one that is much too broad a statement that does not take into account the popular conceptions of race and the conception of race that has been the subject of this threa
    Race based on decedent origin, is not false.
    Instead of making untrue blanket statements, like race is a social construct.
    A better way would be to say, "the way people typically define race is poor, incomplete and prone to errors."

    I still feel that it is pc garbage, because while the intentions behind its use are good, you shouldn't mislead people by saying things that are untrue.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As for the poll, before I answer, I think we should agree on the meaning of the word racism:

    The definition of racism is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about what the word "race" means, and because there is also little agreement about what does and doesn't constitute discrimination.

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    Some sociologists have defined racism as a system of group privilege.

    Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    How we define the word changes whether it was or not. This example seems more like prejudice to me.
    It's a loaded, pejorative term with no legitimate use. It makes a theory based on the preponderance of evidence seem undeniably evil and a theory based on looking behind the evidence, with the goal of dismissing the evidence, seem conclusive and humanitarian.
    So it doesn't matter how we define the word; it is the type of expression this word fits into that matters. It is, in fact, a slur word.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    It's a loaded, pejorative term with no legitimate use. It makes a theory based on the preponderance of evidence seem undeniably evil and a theory based on looking behind the evidence, with the goal of dismissing the evidence, seem conclusive and humanitarian.
    So it doesn't matter how we define the word; it is the type of expression this word fits into that matters. It is, in fact, a slur word.
    I won't go that far. Many culture have been ethnocentric and have abused races of people. It's as old as time. Having a word fot that is proper. But I think words have to be very specific and that we have to agree on a working fefinition before we can answer questions about them. But, I wouldn't eleminate words needlessly.

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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I won't go that far. Many culture have been ethnocentric and have abused races of people. It's as old as time. Having a word fot that is proper. But I think words have to be very specific and that we have to agree on a working fefinition before we can answer questions about them. But, I wouldn't eleminate words needlessly.
    You are unfairly attacking self-defense by calling it abuse, so again you are loading the term by making racial conflict always evil. Living in a dreamworld will create nightmares in the real world.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I won't go that far. Many culture have been ethnocentric and have abused races of people. It's as old as time.
    Actually, until a few centuries ago (the earliest recorded instances of active application of the myth of "race"), no one abused "races" of people because that particular political fiction hadn't gained enough traction yet. There were, and still remain, many other axes of irrational differential treatment to choose from, and group-based irrational prejudice and differential treatment generally is indeed ancient, but racism is a specific and historically contingent instance which was invented (on historical timescales) late last night.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Long story short, yeah, of course it does exist. But it is in the same category as men being raped by women or rich people burglarizing the houses of poor people. Sure, it technically happens, but you should never let it distract you from the radically larger problem and you certainly shouldn't let yourself fall for the ludicrous "ah well, I guess it's even then" line.
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well not really.
    Calling decedents of sub Saharan Africans and aboriginal Australians, the same race, is wrong.
    They are not.
    Saying that whites and blacks are of different races, is generally true.

    Saying race is a social construct, is much too broad a statement.
    ANd yet, you still can't explain what race is

    You can only argue what it is not
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Both statements are true.
    Blacks and whites have genetic differences, that can define them as different races.
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    Please tell us what these genetic differences are
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    Re: Is there such a thing as anti-white racism?

    About those biological differences:

    Race doesn't matter.

    In fact, it doesn't even exist in humans.

    While that may sound like the idealistic decree of a minister or rabbi, it's actually the conclusion of an evolutionary and population biologist at Washington University.

    Alan R. Templeton, Ph.D., professor of biology in Arts and Sciences, has analyzed DNA from global human populations that reveal the patterns of human evolution over the past one million years. He shows that while there is plenty of genetic variation in humans, most of the variation is individual variation. While between-population variation exists, it is either too small, which is a quantitative variation, or it is not the right type of qualitative variation -- it does not mark historical sublineages of humanity.

    Using the latest molecular biology techniques, Templeton has analyzed millions of genetic sequences found in three distinct types of human DNA and concludes that, in the scientific sense, there is no such thing as race.
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