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Texas secession?

Texas secession?

  • Anytime they want

    Votes: 47 54.7%

  • Bad times only

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • No way

    Votes: 35 40.7%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • Total voters
    86
Thunder said:
right, cause' black people were just property...not human beings.

when it comes to the Civil War, the South has ZERO moral standing.
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When it comes to the War between the States, damnyankees were the traitors to the Constitution. Oh yeah, they were moral all right. How about that morality when New York hung about 75-80 of em. Ummm.

How about that morality when honest Abe didn't set free any blacks in the north when he could have. He only declared the ones int he South freed, which he couldn 't free. Thats your damnyankee morality. self-righteouss nausea.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
My higher law says a state shoud be able to secede when it wants to. You say there is ony one law of nature. Where is that written? Who decided what it was? You Im sure as you agree with this so called higher law.

So, you say the North was right in allowing John Brown to terrorize the South. It was right for the Secret Six to fund this operation. Even though the South was obeying the constitution.

This is why the South seceded. They had no protections under the law. And the lawbreakers were lauded as heroes in the north. And they do so under the belief that they are just because they come under a higher law. Then when the South secedes, the South is the villian, bcause they (the north) say the constitution which they (the north) dont follow, doesn't allow for secession. What hpocrits.

Quantrill
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It's funny how you whine and complain about John Brown when Quantrill, the very person you named yourself after, was a murdering pirate who looted and massacred Lawrence.

Your hypocrisy disgusts me.
 
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Centinel said:
Yes, the constitution does prevent genocide. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
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Except the white Southernor.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
When it comes to the War between the States, damnyankees were the traitors to the Constitution. Oh yeah, they were moral all right. How about that morality when New York hung about 75-80 of em. Ummm.

How about that morality when honest Abe didn't set free any blacks in the north when he could have. He only declared the ones int he South freed, which he couldn 't free. Thats your damnyankee morality. self-righteouss nausea.

Quantrill
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He intended to free the Northern slaves as well, but keep in mind that the slave states that still were part of the Union probably would have left if he had done so. After the Civil War the Northern slaves were liberated.
 
MadLib said:
It's funny how you whine and complain about John Brown when Quantrill, the very person you named yourself after, was a murdering pirate who looted and massacred Union towns.

Your hypocrisy disgusts me.
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First of all, keep your historical context. The war hadnt started yet when John Brown was doing his raids. The South was still supposedly, but not really, under the protection of the Constitution. You remember that don't you. That piece of paper the damnyankees called a 'covenant with hell'.

Quantrill was during the war. So, why is Shermans destruction called total war. And Quantrills is called a murdering pirate? Why? Because your forked damnyankee tongue. Thats why. One eyed jack.

Quantrill
 
MadLib said:
He intended to free the Northern slaves as well, but keep in mind that the slave states that still were part of the Union probably would have left if he had done so. After the Civil War the Northern slaves were liberated.
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Why didn't he free them then? He had the power. Why didn't Abe free dem slaves when he could have? Cause he didn't really want to and didn't really care. It was only a war measure. Hows the weather up there on your high and haughty horse?

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
I respect the Souths right to slavery in 1860 as protected by the Constitution of the United States. Which self-righteouss damnyankees didn't and don't.

Quantrill
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Oh, poor Southern states, they didn't get to forcibly put Africans in chains and legally beat, whip, overwork and rape until they died. I'm crying because they couldn't put humanity over profit.
 
Quantrill said:
First of all, keep your historical context. The war hadnt started yet when John Brown was doing his raids. The South was still supposedly, but not really, under the protection of the Constitution. You remember that don't you. That piece of paper the damnyankees called a 'covenant with hell'.

Quantrill was during the war. So, why is Shermans destruction called total war. And Quantrills is called a murdering pirate? Why? Because your forked damnyankee tongue. Thats why. One eyed jack.

Quantrill
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I don't know who the **** Sherman is, but I'm against massacres of any kind perpetrated by anybody. Even the Union which I so obviously love.
 
MadLib said:
Oh, poor Southern states, they didn't get to forcibly put Africans in chains and legally beat, whip, overwork and rape until they died. I'm crying because they couldn't put humanity over profit.
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Oh cry me a river. Were you crying when your damnyankees sold the slaves south because it wasnt profitable anymore? Did you cry then? I didn't think so.

Quantrill
 
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You don't know who Sherman is. Yet you preach to me about who Quantrill is. And I wonder why Americans are so ignorant about what really went on.

Quantrill
 
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MadLib said:
Oh, poor Southern states, they didn't get to forcibly put Africans in chains and legally beat, whip, overwork and rape until they died. I'm crying because they couldn't put humanity over profit.
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I can't believe there are folks who actually defend the South, over "property rights".

These were people for God's sakes!!!!!!!

not property...but people!!!!!
 
Quantrill said:
Why didn't he free them then? He had the power. Why didn't Abe free dem slaves when he could have? Cause he didn't really want to and didn't really care. It was only a war measure. Hows the weather up there on your high and haughty horse?

Quantrill
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I explained why. And he cared about ending slavery; that's what started the war in the first place.
 
Quantrill said:
Oh cry me a river. Were you crying when your damnyankees sold the slaves south because it wasnt profitable anymore? Did you cry then? I didn't think so.

Quantrill
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I wasn't crying, dude. First of all I wasn't alive during the slavery years, and slavery by anyone disgusts me.
 
Thunder said:
I can't believe there are folks who actually defend the South, over "property rights".

These were people for God's sakes!!!!!!!

not property...but people!!!!!
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I can't believe people defend the north's treatment of the Constitution and defense of crimnals by allowing them freedom to kill and murder Southrenors. I take that back....I can believe it. Because I know who Im dealing with. damnyankees.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
To Madlib

You don't know who Sherman is. Yet you preach to me about who Quantrill is. And I wonder why Americans are so ignorant about what really went on.

Quantrill
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You obviously missed the point of my post: Sherman or Quantrill, anyone who kills innocents is in the wrong in my book. Anyone.

But it doesn't matter to you if you missed the point of my post. You must hate the North no matter what, and the South never did wrong, but when the North did the same things as the South did, the North is evil. Slavery of other human beings is A-O-K in your mind, but trying to end it? EVIL DAMNYANKEE CITY BOYS!!! Quantrill plunders villages? Awesome, he's a Confederate. An activist kills slavers and frees the slaves? THE SOUTH ISN'T BEING CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED!!!! I call you out on naming yourself after a Confederate sleaze, but don't criticize Sherman (even though I did)? URBAN FORK-TOUNGUED ELITISTS!!!!!
 
MadLib said:
You obviously missed the point of my post: Sherman or Quantrill, anyone who kills innocents is in the wrong in my book. Anyone.

But it doesn't matter to you if you missed the point of my post. You must hate the North no matter what, and the South never did wrong, but when the North did the same things as the South did, the North is evil. Slavery of other human beings is A-O-K in your mind, but trying to end it? EVIL DAMNYANKEE CITY BOYS!!! Quantrill plunders villages? Awesome, he's a Confederate. An activist kills slavers and frees the slaves? THE SOUTH ISN'T BEING CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED!!!! I call you out on naming yourself after a Confederate sleaze, but don't criticize Sherman (even though I did)? URBAN FORK-TOUNGUED ELITISTS!!!!!
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Please, don't try and cover your tracks now. You didn't have the slightest idea who Sherman was. And here you are preaching about Quantrill. Its embarassing.

Quantrill
 
Quantrill said:
Please, don't try and cover your tracks now. You didn't have the slightest idea who Sherman was. And here you are preaching about Quantrill. Its embarassing.

Quantrill
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Do I have to know who Sherman was in order to criticize Quantrill?
 
MadLib said:
Do I have to know who Sherman was in order to criticize Quantrill?
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Now, that would also make a good signature line.

No, you really dont have to know. But, it would make your argument more credible if you did. In all sincerity, I would encouragae you to study that war in its totality. Not just what you have been told. Its a great study and quite revealing.

Quantrill
 
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