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Texas secession?

Texas secession?

  • Anytime they want

    Votes: 47 54.7%
  • Bad times only

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • No way

    Votes: 35 40.7%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 3.5%

  • Total voters
    86
Ok, take that to its logical extension.

The pro Union majority of the southern states thus had the right to leave the CSA. That means the CSA has to give up:
Border states
West Virginia
South Texas
Central Texas
Northeast Texas
Creole and Cajun areas of Louisiana
North Alabama
North Arkansas
East Tennessee
Eastern North Carolina
Southeasrt Mississippi
Southwest Georgia
North Georgia

Because all of those areas were overwhelmingly pro Union.
Also, the CSA has to give up every slave.

What are the chances the CSAn would have agreed to this?

For today's Texas secesionists, they have to give up:
South Texas
West Texas panhandle
North Texas panhandle
Austin
German Hill Country (central Texas)
Houston (majority minority city, mostly progressives, just elected an openly lesbian mayor)
Dallas (also majority minority)

So do you think Texas secesionists will agree?

The only real abuse being done is by traitors wanting to shatter the nation.

Stop with the crap. I already told you I do not want secession and the constitution allows it so by definition it is not treason.

And you are still doing the race ****.
 
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In this case, it would have been more important than the constitution, since the constitution was based on certain human rights principals that the constitution itself did not fully honor. So that is actually a good thing.

If you want to say that, fine. But then don't accuse us as traitors, when we were law abiding. It would be you who were the traitors. Not us.

Thus the Southern cause is not one of rebellion or treason. But Patriotic. The Confederate flag represents the Constitution and right of a people to secede and govern themselves when it is no longer possible to enjoy liberty and protection in the Union.

Quantrill
 
And you're a "Libertarian" who is in favor of enslaving other people? :lamo

Yes, he is, and yes, some Libertarians do defend that. Remember that for them freedom is all about money and the govt shouldnt interfere.

They just assume people are angels when it comes to business...
 
Yes, he is, and yes, some Libertarians do defend that. Remember that for them freedom is all about money and the govt shouldnt interfere.

They just assume people are angels when it comes to business...

:roll: Its called courts. Look at my profile and you will see I support such. I don't "assume" anything. People are assholes and have always been assholes.
 
Slavery was contitutionally protected. Article 4 sec.2. Nothing you say will change it.

The Constitution can be changed. Nothing you say will change that.

Confederate traitors seceded for slavery. Nothing you say can change that.

Most southerners were pro union. Nothing you say can change that.

Most southerners and Texans have never favored secession. Nothing you say can change that.

And you haven't done a single thing in this thread but convince everyone you're an ignorant racist.

Nothing you say can change that...
 
Yet its the South that are the 'traitors'. Its the South that are called 'rebels'. Its the South that are the evil bad people.

No, most southerners were loyal Unionists. It's the Confederates and their modern day idiot defenders who are traitors, evil white supremacist scum.

They're certainly not rebels. I'll reserve that glorious label for men who deserve it, like Douglass and MLK.
 
Nor did it cite any constitutional prohibition against secession, which means that, per the 10th amendment, the power to secede was reserved to the states.

And yet again, in your hubris, you assume that thought escaped the members of the US SUpreme Court? Its amazing how the world managed to get this far without lewrockwell.com to provide all these talking points.
 
Again, you say many things. Jaw is moving. Nothing to support what you say.

Quantrill
Ya know, I'm not seein much to support what you say at all.
 
The Constitution can be changed. Nothing you say will change that.

Confederate traitors seceded for slavery. Nothing you say can change that.

Most southerners were pro union. Nothing you say can change that.

Most southerners and Texans have never favored secession. Nothing you say can change that.

And you haven't done a single thing in this thread but convince everyone you're an ignorant racist.

Nothing you say can change that...

No one said the Constitution couldn't be changed. But the North didn't choose that route. They chose to change the situation through war. And then change the Constitution.

Still makes us not the traitor. Makes them the traitor.

Quantrill
 
:roll: Its called courts. Look at my profile and you will see I support such. I don't "assume" anything. People are assholes and have always been assholes.

It must be really difficult going through life with that sort of outlook about ones fellow man. You have my sympathies and my pity.

I have found people to be of all sorts of qualities - fortunately most of them positive and decent.
 
Because libertarians abuse people all the time.

In all seriousness, yes you do. Ron Paul and the other idiot Tea Party types have prolonged this recession by sabotaging one remedy after another, all in the name of ideological purity.

And all those threats to murder the president or start an armed revolution came from the Tea Party/Libertarians.

Your party also should answer for the many white supremacists you have among you.
 
Nope

1. I'm defending the right for states to leave the union on demand.
2. I'm defending states rights as they are put out by the constitution that can only be put aside with an amendment.
3. I agree with ending slavery but I disagree with how it was done.

Do you also defend the small elites within those states that hijacked the will of the majority in those same states?
 
In all seriousness, yes you do. Ron Paul and the other idiot Tea Party types have prolonged this recession by sabotaging one remedy after another, all in the name of ideological purity.

And all those threats to murder the president or start an armed revolution came from the Tea Party/Libertarians.

Your party also should answer for the many white supremacists you have among you.

A whole lot of stupid claims there.
 
Do you also defend the small elites within those states that hijacked the will of the majority in those same states?

I answered that question not long ago. Why don't you stop spamming and start reading?
 
You don't make them happy by making them your tax slaves like haymarket desires.

That is outright racism.

You want to compare paying the lowest tax rates in the industrial world to slavery?

That's as bad as the Tea Party bigots who compared taxpayers to Holocaust victims.
 
That is outright racism.

You want to compare paying the lowest tax rates in the industrial world to slavery?

That's as bad as the Tea Party bigots who compared taxpayers to Holocaust victims.

Its not racism. Its hyperbole, but its definitely not racist.
 
It boggles my mind why someone in one state would feel as if he has any legitimate claim on the sovereign people of another state. Some people just want to be the boss of the world.

Apparently, that is how secessionists think.

Because a small groups of secessionists keeps trying to impose their will on loyal majorities.
 
Its not racism. Its hyperbole, but its definitely not racist.

At the very least, it's hyperbole that also does not care if it is racist or not.

The history of the Libertarian movement is one of cozying up to racists and intense hostility to civil rights.

eg Ron Paul has some of his leading organizers drawn from white supremacists.
 
That is outright racism.

:lamo It has nothing to do with race.

You want to compare paying the lowest tax rates in the industrial world to slavery?

That's as bad as the Tea Party bigots who compared taxpayers to Holocaust victims.

Lets go through this..

The income tax is a form of involuntary servitude.
People like Haymarket desire to use people to reach their desires through the tax system and will NOT allow them to renounce their citizenship without punishment to avoid such treatment.
He also supports taxing them wherever they go on the globe as long as they are citizen of this country knowing full well there is no reason for them to be paying taxes.

All of this is describing slavery using taxes.
 
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Holding people as property was acceptable in 1776-1865. Protected by the Constitution.

Quantrill

Apparently to an open racist such as yourself as well. One who just fantasized about being a slave owner.
 
At the very least, it's hyperbole that also does not care if it is racist or not.

The history of the Libertarian movement is one of cozying up to racists and intense hostility to civil rights.

eg Ron Paul has some of his leading organizers drawn from white supremacists.

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At the very least, it's hyperbole that also does not care if it is racist or not.

The history of the Libertarian movement is one of cozying up to racists and intense hostility to civil rights.

eg Ron Paul has some of his leading organizers drawn from white supremacists.

:roll: Anyway..
 
One could easily take away the assumption from your writings that you honestly believe slavery was not such a big deal and that you in particular would not mind living in a time and place where you could have owned another human being.

He's actualy become quite open about it. He imagines himself as some great ol goldang reb killin dem yanks all day long n comin on home to rape the slaves wohkin fo hem.

I really hate it when ignorant yokel racists give such a bad impression of my state. Most Texans aren't like him. Texas is the home of Kinky Friedman and Janis Joplin and the Butthole Surfers.

It's not filled with John Wayne wannabes, no matter how a dying species of rednecKKKs might claim otherwise.
 
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