Anytime they want
Bad times only
I don't know
Or the rest of the Constitution...
Here's a hint: Have you read the parts where it talks about admission of states, the only relevant parts to the question?
Didn't think so...most Libertarians conveniently ignore them. And secessionists breath fire if you mention them.
They sure aren't the traitors who forced the loyal majority of southerners into secession at the point of a gun or death threats.
And the constitution sure as hell is not holy writ. It's a fallible document.
Yeah, I'm so scared of that.Section 3 - New States
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
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The only thing important about the Alamo is how it was used to justify race war and ethnic cleansing.
It's a potent propaganda symbol. Just like Little Big Horn, it's used to glorify incompetent commanders and pretend the invaders were "defenders" in a racialized last stand.
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"The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States..."
That's pretty absolute. Congress can bar secession at will. States have no power to say no.
That, and the supremacy clause, both bar secession.
I'm sure that this thread has gone off the rails since I read it last, but there was something I wanted to point out that I'm not sure has been brought up.
Everyone has been talking as if the entire state of Texas wishes to secede. But there may be groups of people within Texas that don't want to secede.
Such as what happened to Virginia when it's state legislature seceded, but the counties west of the Appalachian Mountains were pro-Union, and so seceded from Virginia to form West Virginia.
So what we're supposing here is that the entirety of what is now Texas would be able to secede somehow. But there may be contiguous counties that would prefer to stay within the U.S.
And if they broke off from Texas to form their own state, that would greatly diminish the Lone Star Republic.
I don't know much about the demographics of Texas to contemplate which areas would be carved out of it though.
Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.