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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Lets see here. I can take the word of some libertarian internet poster....... or I can take the word of the United States Supreme Court.

    Thinking.

    Thinking.

    Thinking.


    It was close...... but ...... after careful consideration........ I just have to go with the United States Supreme Court.
    But you reject the ruling of the Supreme Court in the Dred Scott decision. damnyankee traitors.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    For the life of me, I can't see how anyone can make the moral case for preventing secession. If a minority wish to separate from the larger political structure and create their own political unit in which they exercise self-government, then what moral justification could anyone have for saying they can't do so. Preventing a minority from exercising its right to self-government seems to be driven by simple greed: "We own you, and we own the land upon which your homes are built. We will not let you govern yourself, because for you to escape our rule would mean that you are stealing from us."
    I actually agree with you only with regards to one place:
    Hawaii

    There the majority of Native Hawaiians want independence, and unlike Texas they were an actual independent nation prior to US invasion.

    Most Texans don't want secession and never have, and that included during the Civil War.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuanBatista View Post
    Apparently you don't know the history of the butcher you took your name from.

    Apparently you don't know about Andersonville, where prisoners were executed by Commandatn Wirz at random, for which he was executed as a war criminal.

    You keep on going on about the constitution while showing your ignorance of things as basic as amendments.

    Fact is the CSA didnt give a damn about law, just about power.

    The CSA had thousands of political prisoners.

    They carried out mass executions of dissidents.

    The CSA censored the news and executed those who wrote or passed out banned writings.

    And finally, the CSA was no democracy. It banned political parties. usually only one candidate ran, just like the old Soviet Union.

    It was pure tyranny run by an elite.
    Oh, you again. Lots of talk but no support to back it up. Your like a wind up toy. Once the jaw stops jacking there is nothing.

    Do you have any proff of your allegations?

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post



    They move or stay.

    Hell no. Anti secession Texans are the majority. And in the southern quarter of the state, and in both western panhandles, we are the majority by 90% or more.

    I'll tell you what will happen. We will secede FROM TEXAS, pull a West Virginia and form our own state(s).

    And then what once was Texas will look like the the third map here.
    https://www.smashwords.com/books/dow...d-of-texas.pdf

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuanBatista View Post
    You call yourself someone with ears, or who can read?

    You must have failed every history class since the sixth grade to never have heard of the Missouri Compromise, the Compromise of 1850, or any of the many crises where the slave owning elites were terrified that the const would be amended once they no longer had an equal number of slave and free states.
    Yes Ive heard of them. So? The Supreme Court just settled the issue with the Dred Scott decision. If there was to be an ammedment to the constitution it would take years to accomplish. The South had no intersest in seceding to preserve slavery. The South seceded because the North wouldn't abide by the Constitution and treat the South as equals allowing them protection under the Constitution.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    How does it feel. How does it feel.

    Just like the North wanted the South to free its slaves with no compensation.

    How does it feel.

    Quantrill
    So you go from posing as a mass murderer of civilians to posing as a slave owner?

    Seemingly you are no longer hiding your naked racism.

    So are you moping away now that the illegal and immoral theft of HUMAN BEINGS was not bought off?

    Not only should slave owners have not been compensated, they should have faced trial followed by prison, life at hard labor without parole. Eye for an eye...

    Just be thankful they are not gangraped the way they did to slaves...

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuanBatista View Post
    Apparently you're too dumb to know who lost at the Alamo...
    Yeah, we lost all right. But look at the hurt we put on Santa Anna's army. You don't scare us.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But I thought slavery had nothing to do with secession. At least keep your story straight.

    By the way, human beings aren't property. If you don't like that, go put on your sheets and burn a cross.
    I'm sure that's how he spends his spare time. He's not even bothering to hide it anymore.

    Just so everyone's clear, such racism is typical of a large segment, if not the majority, of both Texas secessionists and neo Confederates.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    That was the point. It didn't matter to the North that they were going to have their way and the south was not. Even though the South's was protected by the Constitution. They would go to war to prove it.

    Quantrill
    Most of the south was anti slavery and pro union. Deal with it.

    40% Black.
    Mexicans.
    Indians.

    But of course your racism can't admit they were human.

    Poor whites made up the anti slavery areas. About half of all southern whites were anti slavery.
    Oh that's right, you only consider slaveowners to be southerners.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    Texas vs White was in 1869. Four years after the War. It played no role in 1860. It was not based on the Constitution. It was based on the victory in war.

    Quantrill
    The war was won four years before. Any suggestion that it caused the decision four years later is purely wild speculation created by you. I provided you with the decisions as written by Chief Justice Chase. It said not a word about victory being the deciding factor.
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