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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Anyone considering the Independence of Texas should also understand what the Republic of Texas was and the territories it covered.

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    I don't care what is said in any declaration of secession, ain't no way Texas get to tak any of Kansas, ,oklahoma, Colorado or New Mexico.


    I don't care if the Yankees took youah niggahs or not.


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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Call it being an American patriot who does not want to see his beloved nation deteriorate before his eyes like a leper losing parts of themselves.
    Not a good analogy. A leper's body parts are his own, thus he can feel a sense of loss when they leave him.

    On the other hand, you don't own other people, so should feel no sense of loss when they choose to exercise their right of self government. I get the impression that your bitter lashing out at those who wish to govern themselves is akin to the plantation owner lashing out against "his" people that wished to be free.

    You don't own the people of Texas.

    Think about what government is and what government does. It is simply a set of agreed upon rules the purpose of which is to ensure an orderly society. Personally, as a Pennsylvanian, I don't really care how the people of Texas manage their affairs. If they want to be part of the federation, fine. If not, fine. It really makes no difference to me, as long as we can all coexist peacefully.

    On the other hand, history has shown that there are many people afflicted with the lust for power over others, the pathology that yearns for empire. These sorts of people are a dire threat to the American way of life, and their desire to turn entire cities and states into prison camps must be resisted at every turn, before every aspect of our lives is mandated, managed, and directed from an imperial Capitol a thousand miles away.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    You know you don't actually have to put your murdering namesake's name on every post. The author of each post is identified immediately to the left.
    Habit.

    Murdering? I thought you called it total war? Oh I get it. Its total war when the yankee does it. Its murder when the Southernor does it.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It wasn't about slavery, yet every post is about "them damn Yankees taking away ouah niggahs."

    Interesting how they didn't feel the need to secede over that.
    Interesting how the yankee brings up niggahs but never the Constitution, that they were flouting. Ummm

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    Interesting how the yankee brings up niggahs but never the Constitution, that they were flouting. Ummm

    Glory glory....Hallelujah.

    Oh, and for your information, damnyankee is one word.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    I do wonder why some folks continue to call themselves Americans when they obviously hate the nation.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    Interesting how the yankee brings up niggahs but never the Constitution, that they were flouting. Ummm
    Which part of the Constitution was that? I've been looking for "Congress shall make no law abridging the right to own other people." I'll keep looking though.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I don't care what is said in any declaration of secession, ain't no way Texas get to tak any of Kansas, ,oklahoma, Colorado or New Mexico.


    I don't care if the Yankees took youah niggahs or not.
    As if the US would have any choice in the matter, better check your economic facts, Texas can crash the US economy in a few days, The US Government cannot crash the Texas Economy (Lord knows they have been trying hard enough to for the last four years). Texas controls too much of the National oil refining capacity not to mention a very large chunk of electrical power generation. If Texas chooses to leave, the US does not have an economic choice but to accept Texas' terms, within reason, and make immediate treaties to prevent economic destruction.

    Texas has the highest capacity for oil refining in the US, California and Louisiana combined to not equal Texas, and they are the next two highest on the list. With refineries operating already at 95% to 98%, the rest of the US has no reserve capability to offset the loss of Texas, result, immediate, severe shortage in the US.

    Total energy production, Texas number 1, 11,915 Trillion BTUs, next is Wyoming at 10,337 Trillion BTUs and number 3 is La. at 7,302 Trillion BTUs, number 4 is West Verginia at 3,727 BTUs,http://205.254.135.7/state/state-ene...d=89&orderid=1, just look at the chart, no way the US survives without Texas or at least willing sales from Texas.

    Texas is also number 2 for total agriculture and number one in some areas such as beef production, other than tobacco, it produces all agricultural products. While the loss of Texas in this area would have lesser affect than energy, the US cannot starve out Texas. Not to mention what the loss of fuels and fuel costs would do the rest of the US' agricultural system.

    Simply put, the US needs Texas, but Texas does not need the US. And, as someone else suggested, if we take Arizona, Oklahoma and Louisiana with us, then the rest of the US would come begging us for scraps.

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    Not a good analogy. A leper's body parts are his own, thus he can feel a sense of loss when they leave him.
    That is funny. You score points for wit. But in all seriousness Texas is part of the USA. I, and I expect other Americans, do not want to see America fall apart into little pieces of foreign soil because the separatist whim takes hold temporarily.

    On the other hand, you don't own other people, so should feel no sense of loss when they choose to exercise their right of self government.
    If they do not like it here, I support their right to go somewhere else of their own free choice. They can participate in self government there.

    I get the impression that your bitter lashing out at those who wish to govern themselves is akin to the plantation owner lashing out against "his" people that wished to be free.

    You don't own the people of Texas.
    Now you overreached and failed. You should have stopped with the leper bit. Plantation owners kept people in chains and bondage and prevented them from leaving. No such thing is happening today. There is no Berlin Wall. There are no chains. The people of Texas are not in slavery or bondage and nobody is ordering them to make bricks without straw.

    Try again.

    I would point out to you that the individual people of Texas do not own Texas either and thus have no right to dispose of it as the temporary whim may hit a number of them.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    As if the US would have any choice in the matter, better check your economic facts, Texas can crash the US economy in a few days, The US Government cannot crash the Texas Economy (Lord knows they have been trying hard enough to for the last four years). Texas controls too much of the National oil refining capacity not to mention a very large chunk of electrical power generation. If Texas chooses to leave, the US does not have an economic choice but to accept Texas' terms, within reason, and make immediate treaties to prevent economic destruction.

    Texas has the highest capacity for oil refining in the US, California and Louisiana combined to not equal Texas, and they are the next two highest on the list. With refineries operating already at 95% to 98%, the rest of the US has no reserve capability to offset the loss of Texas, result, immediate, severe shortage in the US.

    Total energy production, Texas number 1, 11,915 Trillion BTUs, next is Wyoming at 10,337 Trillion BTUs and number 3 is La. at 7,302 Trillion BTUs, number 4 is West Verginia at 3,727 BTUs,http://205.254.135.7/state/state-ene...d=89&orderid=1, just look at the chart, no way the US survives without Texas or at least willing sales from Texas.

    Texas is also number 2 for total agriculture and number one in some areas such as beef production, other than tobacco, it produces all agricultural products. While the loss of Texas in this area would have lesser affect than energy, the US cannot starve out Texas. Not to mention what the loss of fuels and fuel costs would do the rest of the US' agricultural system.

    Simply put, the US needs Texas, but Texas does not need the US. And, as someone else suggested, if we take Arizona, Oklahoma and Louisiana with us, then the rest of the US would come begging us for scraps.
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