Anytime they want
Bad times only
I don't know
My position is that it is the right of the people of each sovereign state to decide into what compacts and treaties they wish to engage.
I think Texas should seceed. Then, when Dorothy's house get's swept up in a tornado, it will have a nice place to land with lot's of yellow brick roads. It can make an outsider feel like they are walking in fantasy land as they interact with the locals and hear them speak and talk about their views. Just like the merry ol' land of Oz I suppose.
Speaking in the most general of terms, of course, Texans choose their own realities I have come to learn. They have a long history of folklore and an honorable sense of BS that is both pleasant and sometimes cloaked in wisdom. The Lone Star state is a rare situation. Texan's are Texan's first and American's second, but you would be hard pressed to get them to come right out and say it. It's been that way since Judge Roy Bean and reality has been nurtured to flow in the true Texas way since Peco's Bill roped that tornado.
There's the facts and the truths and the Texas realities. Perception is reality. There is a lot of John Wayne reality in the outskirts of Texas and it cannot be denied as there are a LOT of outskirts in Texas.
Don't mess with Texas.
God bless Texas.
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It's GREAT to be me. --- "45% liberal/55% conservative"
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy" until you can find a gun.
So that's my point. What would be the point of calling it a union if all states are able to come and go when they please? We would have no foundation for a nation, just independent states that share borders but are otherwise 100% sovereign from each other.If Texas were to secede, it would not be helping any foreign government make war against any of the several states, or against the government of the union. It would simply be leaving them alone, and going its own way. It is a non-violent act. The only violence would be if the other states conquered and occupied it.
Arbitrary secession is not only illegal under the Constitution, I doubt the Framers were dumb enough to think that a new nation could survive by letting each state go it's own way without some point of singular authority.
It's got nothing to do with "control" and everything to do with a working system. The Framers set about creating a nation that was a union of independent states under the limited guidance of the federal government. If they wanted a free state sh!tshow, why did they even bother creating the federal government?And again, I just don't understand why anyone, say, in Pennsylvania would feel that they have any authority to rule over the people of the state of Texas. But I guess that's just me; I'm not a control freak.
They shouldn't. It sets a bad precedent, that any time a state doesn't get what it wants, it can just leave the nation. Imagine our political system in which each state can threaten to leave the union as a bargaining chip in Congress. Texas says, "either get rid of our income tax or we'll leave, become sovereign and put an oil embargo on you."I'm saying they ought to be able to, not that they necessarily should.
You think the political system in deadlocked now, just imagine this brave new America.
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