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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    We're not talking about the constitution. We are discussing whether or not the 13 colonies were free, sovereign, and independent states prior to the constitution.
    OK, having just read the Articles of Confederation again - it's been awhile - these are the last two paragraphs:

    XIII.

    Every State shall abide by the determination of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this Confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the Union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.

    And Whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectively represent in Congress, to approve of, and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union. Know Ye that we the undersigned delegates, by virtue of the power and authority to us given for that purpose, do by these presents, in the name and in behalf of our respective constituents, fully and entirely ratify and confirm each and every of the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union, and all and singular the matters and things therein contained: And we do further solemnly plight and engage the faith of our respective constituents, that they shall abide by the determinations of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions, which by the said Confederation are submitted to them. And that the Articles thereof shall be inviolably observed by the States we respectively represent, and that the Union shall be perpetual.
    (emphasis added)
    So, not once, not twice, not even three times, but FOUR full times do they assert that this is a perpetual Union.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Are they different than KY assholes? In my experience, KY has a much higher percentage in that category.

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    Well, in Kentucky we don't make it a game to give yourself a heart attack at a truck stop with some big ass steak, we don't want to build a big ass fence around our border for any reason, Daniel Boone did all kinds of bad ass **** here first, and everybody plays sweet rifts on electric guitars all the time. All you guys got is Hank Hill and George Bush. Same guy really. Plus our college basketball beats the **** out of yours. Taco Bell, KFC, Bluegrass music all from us. Texas is a bunch of retards that don't know that most of their hard work is done by Mexicans. Here, we have a good understanding with that.

    Btw I'm just ****in with you I don't really care.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    South Carolina retained jurisdiction.
    It only retained Service to Process jurisdiction.

    They still existed. The Federal govts right to the land no longer did. In other words, we are leaving your union and you need to leave our land.
    What year are you talking about? It looks like your talking about 1861 instead of 1838 when S. Carolina ceded the land to the US government. That might be where your confusion lies.

    Don't need anything in the 1836 resolution to say anything. The land was not the Federal govts. Its belonged to S. Carolina. When she seceded, then the Fed. govt has to leave. They are tresspassing.

    Still building it. Since 1829. Unfinished maybe. Oh yeah, it offered a lot of protection.

    Quantrill
    The Constitution is all about respecting contracts and recognizing property rights and the US has a 1838 contract that ceded the land to it and that didn't go away just because S. Carolina decided to secede in 1861.

    Interesting, apparently Fort Sumter was built on a man made island. The rocks and land fill came by ship from New England. So whatever sovereignty S.Carolina had was under water. lol Technically, wouldn't the land belong to New England? lol jk
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Talk, talk, talk and no action. This doesn't seem to be going anywhere. I just want to know if there is anything we can do to help? I know a great many of us, though we might miss Texas, we would nonetheless be happy to do what we could to help.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Texas seceding is all talk, talk, talk.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Texas seceding is all talk, talk, talk.
    And it is very boeing talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And it is very boeing talk.
    Hey, it's fun to brush up on history. I like the details that help paint the larger picture, so it probably is boeing talk to some. But we ain't gonna stop talking until Texas secedes dagnabbit. So it will probably be awhile.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Hey, it's fun to brush up on history. I like the details that help paint the larger picture, so it probably is boeing talk to some. But we ain't gonna stop talking until Texas secedes dagnabbit. So it will probably be awhile.


    To Texans it is basically a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    To Texans it is basically a joke.
    I should hope so. It's a moot argument.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Hey, it's fun to brush up on history. I like the details that help paint the larger picture, so it probably is boeing talk to some. But we ain't gonna stop talking until Texas secedes dagnabbit. So it will probably be awhile.
    Or until we purge the annoying ones that somehow always find their way in front of a camera. I'm all down for a real, serious talk on the issue of secession, because it's an interesting topic on State Rights, but certain types that just like to beat the ground, and toss grass in the air can secede from the US via getting the **** out, and decreasing the surplus population for all I care. They won't, though, because even they, at some level, realize how much they rely on the Federal Union.
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