Thread: Texas secession?

Originally Posted by Lokiate

The attack on Fort Sumter was a declaration of war.

So basically it was act of war to take back what you own. D:

Ok?

Originally Posted by Henrin

So basically it was act of war to back what you own. D:

Ok?

It was an act of war because they waged war against a US Military base. Should we have just let Peal Harbor and 9/11 slide, too?

Originally Posted by Lokiate

It was an act of war because they waged war against a US Military base. Should we have just let Peal Harbor and 9/11 slide, too?

Don't be daft. The only reason the North didn't leave the fort is because Lincoln needed an excuse to have his war so he dared the south to attack Fort Sumter by ignoring their request to leave the fort at once. He was told very clearly by his advisers this would lead to war, but since that is what he wanted he ignored his advisers and ordered the men to stay in the fort.

Originally Posted by Henrin

Don't be daft. The only reason the North didn't leave the fort is because Lincoln needed an excuse to have his war so he dared the south to attack Fort Sumter by ignoring their request to leave the fort at once. He was told very clearly by his advisers this would lead to war, but since that is what he wanted he ignored his advisers and ordered the men to stay in the fort.

The Confederacy knew the consequences, and killed US Soldiers anyway. They brought it upon themselves.

Originally Posted by Henrin

Don't be daft. The only reason the North didn't leave the fort is because Lincoln needed an excuse to have his war so he dared the south to attack Fort Sumter by ignoring their request to leave the fort at once. He was told very clearly by his advisers this would lead to war, but since that is what he wanted he ignored his advisers and ordered the men to stay in the fort.

This has got to be one of the dumbest things i've ever read on the forum. What is Lincoln supposed to order the US Army to do, just clear the **** out of Fort Sumter and let the South have their secession? The war was fought because one side sought to keep the Union together, while the other sought to divide it in two. Not because Lincoln was scheming for a civil war, but because the South knew that's what it would take to gain their own independence.

Originally Posted by Lokiate

The Confederacy knew the consequences, and killed US Soldiers anyway. They brought it upon themselves.

When you are ordered to leave property you do not own and you decide to stay you are giving your opponent no choice but to attack and kill you. Lincoln knew what was going to happen by ignoring the order and he still did it.

Originally Posted by StillBallin75

This has got to be one of the dumbest things i've ever read on the forum. What is Lincoln supposed to order the US Army to do, just clear the **** out of Fort Sumter and let the South have their secession? The war was fought because one side sought to keep the Union together, while the other sought to divide it in two. Not because Lincoln was scheming for a civil war, but because the South knew that's what it would take to gain their own independence.

1. Leaving the union was NOT illegal.

2. Lincoln was to respect that the fort was not his and the actions by the south were not illegal.

3. He was to therefore leave the fort when ordered to do so.

4. It is a fact that Lincoln needed to make the south look like the aggressor and there is no better way to do it than what he did.

Hey how about the ask a Texan thread? see ya'll there.

Originally Posted by Henrin

When you are ordered to leave property you do not own and you decide to stay you are giving your opponent no choice but to attack and kill you. Lincoln knew what was going to happen by ignoring the order and he still did it.

The Confederate states were, and still are property of the US government

Originally Posted by Lokiate

The Confederate states were, and still are property of the US government

And you got that from??