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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    If Texas goes its own way. The resulting shift in electoral votes and congressional districts will make this into a much more liberal country politically. I wonder what the implications of that would be.
    And that is what I was getting at with my very first post in this thread.


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    While it may be appealing on a political level to let Texas go and take their automatic Republican Electoral votes with them, as a patriotic American, I must vote NO. There is no right to secede.
    And as attractive as that may be for political reasons, we cannot allow secession...... even if it is a politically backwards place like Texas.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    As a native Californian, I must say that I would welcome the confirmation that the time I did visit Texas that I really was in a foreign country.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    As a native Californian, I must say that I would welcome the confirmation that the time I did visit Texas that I really was in a foreign country.
    I drove through that upper section once and passed through Amarillo, past the Cadillac ranch and past some giant cross right down the road. It was May and it was well over 100 degrees. I questioned if I was still on the planet.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Okay, now I see what you are saying. I agree. If it wished to, the US government could certainly make life difficult for a new independent Texas. I would hope it would not go down that road. I'd rather separate as friends than to make a mortal enemy. Having Texas turn out to be another Canada would be the best outcome I could imagine. I guess it all depends on how vindictive the US government would be. (And history has shown that it can be pretty darn vindictive.)
    I'm sure Texas would like to have it's cake and eat it, too, but I doubt the rest of the US would look at secession as the act of a "friend".
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I'm sure Texas would like to have it's cake and eat it, too, but I doubt the rest of the US would look at secession as the act of a "friend".
    I don't see the big deal with Texas, or any states, choosing to leave the federation. But then again, I agree with phattonez that any people ought to be able to leave their current political unit and form their own commonwealth.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    I don't see the big deal with Texas, or any states, choosing to leave the federation. But then again, I agree with phattonez that any people ought to be able to leave their current political unit and form their own commonwealth.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    It was said that no one had considered secession before. The Hartford convention proves otherwise.

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    Nobody said it wasn't considered. Just that it didn't happen. Which is true.


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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    All of the Ariticles are done away with because a unanamous vote to change them was required. Which couldn't be gotten because N. Carolina and Rhode Island wouldn't show up. Thus no change could be made. Soloution? Chunk em out the window and make another. And so they did.

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    Article VI says that engagements made under the Articles still count. I would call the engagement into a "perpetual union" a rather important engagement. Now generally, I'd agree that the Articles were thrown out, but the Constitution specifically states that engagements made under the Articles still apply unless otherwise stated. So, your contention is either that the Constitution DID state otherwise, or that this engagement doesn't count.

    So I'll throw the Constitutional argument back to the pro-secessionists. Where is the language in the Constitution that negates the "perpetual union" put in place by "The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union?"

    If the Constitution ever negated that part of the Articles, that would be different. I don't see that it did, therefore the "perpetual union" applied in 1860, as it does today.


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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Howdy,

    Let's assume times get tough, the US dollar crashes or something of that magnitude. Would you mind Texas secession if they choose to?

    Let's consider Texas without the protection of the United States.

    Mexican Drug Gangs invade from the south and takes control San Antonio, Huston...

    That other country to the North, you know, the United States, invades from the north and takes control of the all the oil wells.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Some would think that peaceful secession and splitting up countries hasn't been done before. It's not as hard as people think it is.

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