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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Howdy,

    Let's assume times get tough, the US dollar crashes or something of that magnitude. Would you mind Texas secession if they choose to?

    Sure, it would be the worst thing Texas could do.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And if the people of Texas voted to do this, what would they be giving up? And what would they have to pay for?
    How about their portion of the national debt (as % of the population) and then wave DC goodbye.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    No. Secession is explicitly forbidden by the constitution. We had this discussion a long time again and it's a settled issue. Secession is illegal.
    I think whether something is legal or not is only meaningful if one is prepared to enforce the law. That's leaving aside whether what's legal is actually morally right.

    In reality keeping a state within a union against its will would probably lead to the loss of other constitutional rights. I imagine the 2nd would be the first on the chopping block if a proper rebellion kicked off.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Is this the future of our "great nation" , secession ?
    IMO, if it is, then so be it.....
    Will we revert to be like the European nations of the middle ages ?
    More than history should be taught in our schools.
    Man should be taught how to get along with his fellow man.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    How about their portion of the national debt (as % of the population) and then wave DC goodbye.
    And what about benefits that are due American citizens like Social Security and Medicare?

    What about US government property within Texas?
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Is this the future of our "great nation" , secession ?
    IMO, if it is, then so be it.....
    Will we revert to be like the European nations of the middle ages ?
    More than history should be taught in our schools.
    Man should be taught how to get along with his fellow man.
    Which would you consider a more harmonious relationship, two independent sovereign states that are friends and allies? Or a conquering state and a subjugated state?

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    No. Secession is explicitly forbidden by the constitution. We had this discussion a long time again and it's a settled issue. Secession is illegal.
    no, secession is not expressly forbidden by the Constitution... in fact, SCOTUS has ruled the a successful secession is possible through revolution or consent of the States.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And what about benefits that are due American citizens like Social Security and Medicare?

    What about US government property within Texas?
    assuming a successful secession, such things could be negotiated through treaty proceedings.... the options are only limited to what the negotiators are willing to negotiate.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    I don't think we have to worry about this very much. Only a few far right wing nuts talk about succession. The vast, vast, vast, vast, vast vast, vast vast vast, majority of Texas would think its stupid.

    Leaders of succession would have to worry about being shot more than anyone else. Lotta guns down here in Tx. LOL!

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Isnt this akin to saying "short people should have the right to be tall"? There is no way this happens. A far more likely scenario would be California splitting up and becoming two states than any singe state attempting secession.

    However for the sake of argument...(no...they wouldnt ever be allowed to secede) a better solution to your scenario would be for the fed to announce an era of responsible government, pay down the debt, massively reduce states federal tax burden, and return social services and spending to the states. Just like Texas wont ever secede, that will never happen either. So...unfortunately, until it all goes sour, Texas will have to suffer the fools just like all the rest of us.

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