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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Signature-worthy.
    Please, use it. Its for you.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    You obviously missed the point of my post: Sherman or Quantrill, anyone who kills innocents is in the wrong in my book. Anyone.

    But it doesn't matter to you if you missed the point of my post. You must hate the North no matter what, and the South never did wrong, but when the North did the same things as the South did, the North is evil. Slavery of other human beings is A-O-K in your mind, but trying to end it? EVIL DAMNYANKEE CITY BOYS!!! Quantrill plunders villages? Awesome, he's a Confederate. An activist kills slavers and frees the slaves? THE SOUTH ISN'T BEING CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED!!!! I call you out on naming yourself after a Confederate sleaze, but don't criticize Sherman (even though I did)? URBAN FORK-TOUNGUED ELITISTS!!!!!
    Please, don't try and cover your tracks now. You didn't have the slightest idea who Sherman was. And here you are preaching about Quantrill. Its embarassing.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    Please, use it. Its for you.

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    Okay, that was not bad.
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    Hah. If someone put me in their sig, I'd never know. I have sigs off.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    Please, don't try and cover your tracks now. You didn't have the slightest idea who Sherman was. And here you are preaching about Quantrill. Its embarassing.

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    Do I have to know who Sherman was in order to criticize Quantrill?
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Do I have to know who Sherman was in order to criticize Quantrill?
    Now, that would also make a good signature line.

    No, you really dont have to know. But, it would make your argument more credible if you did. In all sincerity, I would encouragae you to study that war in its totality. Not just what you have been told. Its a great study and quite revealing.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    One need not know who William Tecumseh Sherman was, to be able to criticise the CSA.

    such an argument is a dishonest red herring.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    Now, that would also make a good signature line.

    No, you really dont have to know. But, it would make your argument more credible if you did. In all sincerity, I would encouragae you to study that war in its totality. Not just what you have been told. Its a great study and quite revealing.

    Quantrill
    I pretty much already have an opinion formulated: The Union was good but not all good, it had the moral superiority over the CSA, but perhaps could have made better efforts to end slavery. I would study it for entertainment value; I already study history, especially Napoleonic wars.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quantrill: I pose another question, if I may

    Is slavery itself an institution that should have been kept or would you have it done away with? If you are pro-slavery, how do you justify it?
    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    The constitution cannot be flexible else it wouldn't be a constitution. It can be ammeded however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    One need not know who William Tecumseh Sherman was, to be able to criticise the CSA.

    such an argument is a dishonest red herring.
    Perhaps in part. However, I've read some pretty outlandish claims on this crazy thread that indicate that just a little knowledge of the Civil War would be very useful (Example: Understanding during the first two years which side had the superior leadership).

    And really, not knowing how Longsteet humiliated Custer at Appomattox is fairly arcane information, but not knowing who Sherman was demonstrates astonishing ignorance of the Civil War (and even of the 1939 film Gone With the Wind ).

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Quantrill: I pose another question, if I may

    Is slavery itself an institution that should have been kept or would you have it done away with? If you are pro-slavery, how do you justify it?
    Slavery was an institution existant its time. No one man could keep or do away with it. It would take great efforts from many to use or end it. It would certainly exist only for a period of time. Only when it was profitable or necessarry.

    The only position I can take on slavery is that which the country took when it wrote its constitution. For those are the laws we as Americans must live and die by. And if we disagree with them then we go through the political process to change them. We do not treat half of the country as evil and attack it.

    I do not seek to have slaves. No one in 1860 was required in the South to have slaves. But it was legal and protected. Or, protected by the Constitution. Not protected by those who ignored the Constitution.

    Quantrill

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