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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Can you prove this? Hint: the source should not be a dumb uberconservative Confederate site.
    Sure, I can. It's not uncommon knowledge. But disregarded by most. I will get back with you.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    It should be obeyed during the time it is in force. Don't you agree?

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    I agree with the general idea, but I think that the Constitution should be flexible.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quantrill View Post
    First, secession was not uncontitutional. Second, why does the North disregard the fugitive slave law? Article 4 sec. 2. Why does the North allow John Brown freedom in the North to plot terroristic attacks against the South?

    The South was not disobedient to the Constitution.

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    Where in the constitution does it give any state the right to form a new compact with other states to form a new central government that could wage war on the other states still in the union? No where that I can see. But what I can see were a handful of radicals commiting treason by trying to bust up the union and throwing a tantrum because they couldn't get their own way.

    Do you understand anything about legal contracts? Anything at all? The Southern states signed a legal contract with 36 other states and in those days a man's honor was as good as word. The contract did not give one state the right to break the agreement with all the other states without their consent or a majority vote. The South's renegging on it's contract with the other states showed that the South had no honor and couldn't be trusted to keep it's word.
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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It went right over your head. It appears that you had no idea how many founders signed the Constitution. Its a good day when you can learn something.
    Nothing went over my head. I just thought you had something to say and like usual I was disappointed. I really have to stop expecting something from you.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Where in the constitution does it give any state the right to form a new compact with other states to form a new central government that could wage war on the other states still in the union? No where that I can see. But what I can see were a handful of radicals commiting treason by trying to bust up the union and throwing a tantrum because they couldn't get their own way.

    Do you understand anything about legal contracts? Anything at all? The Southern states signed a legal contract with 36 other states and in those days a man's honor was as good as word. The contract did not give one state the right to break the agreement with all the other states without their consent or a majority vote. The South's renegging on it's contract with the other states showed that the South had no honor and couldn't be trusted to keep it's word.
    A "handful of radicals" who were "throwing a tantrum"? This is your summation of the War Between the States?

    You go far too far, missy, when you state that the South had no honor and that it couldn't be trusted to keep its word. Fie on you.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And yet again, in your hubris, you assume that thought escaped the members of the US SUpreme Court? Its amazing how the world managed to get this far without lewrockwell.com to provide all these talking points.
    And yet again you fail to give even a hint of a clue as to why secession would be prohibited.

    Oh wait. That's because it's NOT prohibited.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuanBatista View Post
    Apparently, that is how secessionists think.

    Because a small groups of secessionists keeps trying to impose their will on loyal majorities.
    If the majority of a state don't want to secede, then that state won't secede.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuanBatista View Post
    You really haven't been following this thread have you?

    That's been beaten to death, case law showing it again and again.
    And this case law is based upon what language in the constitution?

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuanBatista View Post
    Apparently you didn't bother to read most of the thread.

    Or the rest of the Constitution...

    Here's a hint: Have you read the parts where it talks about admission of states, the only relevant parts to the question?

    Didn't think so...most Libertarians conveniently ignore them. And secessionists breath fire if you mention them.
    Please quote me the section that forbids a state from leaving the union.

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    Re: Texas secession?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I agree with the general idea, but I think that the Constitution should be flexible.
    The constitution cannot be flexible else it wouldn't be a constitution. It can be ammeded however.

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