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Thread: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    US election are 2 answer questions. Two party system cannot be fair and you fail if you think it is.
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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I won't vote for either one of them because neither one of them comes anywhere near agreeing with my socio-political philosophies.
    How many people died for your right to vote? Many and you just throw it away, that is just like spitting in their face. That is what I think

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am not voting for either one.I will vote for a 3rd party assuming there is one that matches my views and if my state doesn't screw 3rd party candidates this year.
    If there is no 3rd party candidate I like or my state screws 3rd parties I will simply not check that part of the ballot. Now if Romney picks Gingrich as his running mate I might vote for Obama just because of the fact the GOP had the nerve to not only prop up one of the biggest RINOs for president but to have the epitome of scumbag politicians Gingrich run as VP.
    You will just throw your vote away.
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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrillic View Post
    How many people died for your right to vote? Many and you just throw it away, that is just like spitting in their face. That is what I think



    You will just throw your vote away.
    Fortunately, Americans take their right to throw their vote away very seriously.
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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrillic View Post
    I say there isn't party that would support my views in both Slovenia and Serbia. That is what I am saying. Last time there was guy who was I vote for him because he is good was Đinđić 10 years ago before CIA or SRS or DSS or mafia or whoever killed him.
    I mean in Slovenia there isn't eurosceptic party or anti-NATO party or real communist party and all of these would get support from folks right away. I am saying that people aren't represented in good ways.
    About Serbia - Well in Serbia there isn't I am socialist, conservative etc. There is I am ______ party. People see themselves via parties not views. That was in Serbia since 19. century.

    EDIT: I need to make this clearer. So there was Communist party of Yugoslavia. They were commies and pan-Slavs. And all commies were pan-Slavs since that was policy. There was never Serbian communism only Yugoslav communism.

    But I think this thing is in USA even bigger since there are 2 options.
    Oh, so you're saying that the EU elections are real... the votes aren't faked and ballot boxes stuffed like in some places *cough* Russia *cough*... but you personally don't like the choices you're given.

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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Elections in this country have pretty much been *lesser-of-two-evils* events here for about the past 20 or so years. Moreso since 2008. Our two primary party lines have become deeply divided along ideological lines, and those of us who don't fit neatly into either party are just relegated to choose between two candidates that we really don't much like.
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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Voter fraud exists in America as shown by the activities of A.C.O.R.N. . Institutionalized voter fraud also exists e.g. Chicago. Many States prohibit third parties by erecting high qualifications to recognize a third party my State of Oklahoma is one. Furthermore, my State had their ballots set up so that one could not skip voting for one section and have it recognized as a valid ballot. From my point of view neither of the two parties national committees Republican or Democrat represents the mainstream values of the people in Oklahoma though of course we are able to elect someone to Congress that is representative more or less. I do not know whether that comes close to an answer or not.
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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrillic View Post
    Are USA elections like ones we have in EU or real ones?
    Don't know how they are in the EU. In America it's all a little puppet show. Some singing and dancing on both sides, but ultimately scripted and invented. There is no real political competition nor are there true differences in candidates.
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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrillic View Post
    Are USA elections like ones we have in EU or real ones?
    It's really none of those options for me. It's not that I don't want either, but that I do think one is better than the other, though only marginally.

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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrillic View Post
    How many people died for your right to vote? Many and you just throw it away, that is just like spitting in their face. That is what I think
    Most people would rather vote for someone they believe in than throw it away on the "lesser of two evils". Voting for someone you detest because you detest the other guy even more is spitting on the faces of those who died for your right to vote. You vote for someone because you actually believe they are the right person for the job. Not because NBC,CBS,FOX,PBS,ABC,CNN or MSNBC told you that so and so is the most viable candidate and not because one candidate is slightly less worse than the other candidate.

    You will just throw your vote away.
    Voting for the lesser of two evils would be throwing away my vote. I would rather vote for someone I want in office.

    If you had two bad kids would you reward the kid who busted your car passenger window while scolding the one who poured sugar down your car's gas tank? You wouldn't reward one child who got a all F+ on his report card while the other got all F- on her report card? If you keep voting for the lesser of two evils every election then what the hell do you think is going to happen? Do you think the parties will only improve if you keep voting for the lesser of two evils? No they won't improve.They will just keep getting worse and worse because your vote provides them with no incentive to change.
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    Re: Lesser evil or REAL elections?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't know how they are in the EU. In America it's all a little puppet show. Some singing and dancing on both sides, but ultimately scripted and invented. There is no real political competition nor are there true differences in candidates.
    The American presidential election amounts to TV wrestling. Like the tv wrestlers they all pretend to hate each other, they bad mouth each other and put on a show to amuse the die hard idiots who thinks it's real.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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