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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm being a hack and saying over lol.
    As long as you seem to recognize it's tongue in cheek

    Ron Paul's given no indication he's running 3rd party (indeed, he's given every indication he won't). Libertarians over the past 20 years have had toruble even getting over 1% of the vote and that's with BEING on the ballot. The amount of people who support Paul doesn't necessarily correleate to the amount that write him in rather than voting for someone on the ballot come the general, or who will actually mobilize to go out and put in what is in essence a purely protest vote. I'd be shocked and sugget its a BIG THING if Paul didn't run but somehow managed thru right in's to be one of the most successful 3rd party candidates of the past 50 years.

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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Simple question. Do you think Ron Paul will pull over or under 4% of the vote come November. You know a lot of people will be writing him in (including this guy), but just how many is up for debate.
    Write ins are rarely seen aggregated to anything substantial. I would hazard a guess at under 4%. I love the guy and his politics, but write in candidates are always hard to get any amount of support.
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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    I dont think it really matters, he's irrelevant. He's never going to win.
    Winning isn't the issue at all.

    I am curious to see how many people will vote 3rd party. What will be the overall percentage there?
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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Winning isn't the issue at all.

    I am curious to see how many people will vote 3rd party. What will be the overall percentage there?
    Not as much as Ross Perot got, and that's a damned shame. And really not a Paul fan, but I do love me some Gary Johnson.

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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Simple question. Do you think Ron Paul will pull over or under 4% of the vote come November. You know a lot of people will be writing him in (including this guy), but just how many is up for debate.
    Way way under. He will not even get 1%.
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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    I voted over 4%. Paul is the genuine deal. Consistent. Provides a simple answer to complex problems. (People love simple answers for complex problems. I struggled with the same desire people had as a design engineer.) Mitt's answers are not consistent enough and have to be a little to complex to explain his history. So, I think Paul will get more votes than expected.

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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    It will be under 4%.
    We simply have too many people in our nation who cannot write.......and will not write.....and, worst of all, are prohibited from writing.

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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Winning isn't the issue at all.

    I am curious to see how many people will vote 3rd party. What will be the overall percentage there?
    Most people know third parties are irrelevant and do nothing but split votes...they help the opposing candidate beat the candidate of the party they (third party) most closely relates to. Ron Paul running as a third party Candidate as a conservative, helps Obama beat Romney because he steals votes from Romney. In other words, people who vote for him are voting for Obama By Proxy.
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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Flippinfunky View Post
    Most people know third parties are irrelevant and do nothing but split votes...they help the opposing candidate beat the candidate of the party they (third party) most closely relates to. Ron Paul running as a third party Candidate as a conservative, helps Obama beat Romney because he steals votes from Romney. In other words, people who vote for him are voting for Obama By Proxy.
    I think that way of thinking is beginning to change as the American people wake up to the undeniable fact that both big parties are terrible. Both have claimed to be better then the other, but have equally been an utter failure. The stranglehold that Democrats and Republicans have on American politics is beginning to loosen.
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    Re: Over/under 4% for ron paul's write in votes

    I'll double Haymarket's prediction but that is it. 2% if he is lucky.

    One interesting thing about some of the other comments when it comes to the minority births and the demise of the GOP.

    It seems support of what most libertarians and conservatives call our heritage is a mile wide but only a coat of paint deep. Scratch it and you expose a dull base metal.

    It boggles the mind to think those who online are so ardent about what makes America 'merican are so quick to point to rather meaningless stats and wail about the future, (and wash their hands of the two party system).

    It is too simplistic to say minorities will stay democratic just because 'Momma says'... (Forrest Gump was a white guy, pay no attention to him) anymore than you should believe Mexican 2nd and 3rd generation will be Roman Catholic.

    While right now a rough outline of the two parties can also use race/ethnicity fairly well to define the groups we should remember they have driving philosophies not racial tests. True the GOP is saddled with a rather nasty white minority that doesn't like becomes one of many, but as minorities increase the minority of white hate Americans will be diluted. So the GOP will be counting conservative hispanic and black businessmen in their ranks pushing the haters out.

    I don't see the libertarian party ever being more than a handful of sidelined grand standers. You don't win national elections without teamwork, suppressing individuality for a common goal, and compromising on a party platform.

    The above seems counter to the personalities displayed by Libertarians. More a very loose affiliation of self centered folks who if they did band together well enough to make a viable party they would have to sacrifice much of what they believe in.

    Remember it isn't the number of people you can draw in as boni-fidey members, it is how willing the moderates are to follow the party platform. (Dems would do well to remember that)

    Anywho, you 'ardent' followers of the more traditional America, (as you see it), should nut up and trust the very system you worship. The GOP ain't dying, it is shedding it's skin.

    Ron gets 2% IF he is lucky

    And for all the Tea Party is seen by some as the Great White Hope, it will never shed it's racial angst and the true 'conservatives' will drift back to the GOP.

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