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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So you don't see a reelection as a referendum?

    The referendum that your referring to may very well reverse itself and be a loser for the far right.
    I said if the election were today Obama would lose...but by november if he demonstrates the real ideas of the Norquist far right and he brings up examples like Scott walker...he will win...
    He needs to bring out Paul Ryans plan that will kill medicare...and replace it with his own plan..thats what he needs to do in my mind to assure he wins.
    Romney stands the best chance of screwing up in the next months CP...hes not going to be able to hide and evade soon...its down to two and the media is going to have at him..
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Obama is the likely winner, it will take several gaffes by the Obama campaign(which is highly unlikely) or the economy going into another depression before election time for Romney to win IMO. Obama will wipe the floor with Romney in the debates and I think that will swing a lot of people.
    I'm not so sure Obama will clobber Romney in the debates. Remember, the debates aren't about logic, reason, or truth. If they were, I would expect Obama to absolutely destroy Romney. The debates are about emotion and manipulation. Romney's fairly skilled in using those. Since the country clearly is still very, very bigoted, I expect Romney has a good chance to manipulate that in some way and make him appear to be the good guy. You should never underestimate the gullibility or foolishness of the American public. Romney does have a chance against Obama in the debates.
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I'm not so sure Obama will clobber Romney in the debates. Remember, the debates aren't about logic, reason, or truth. If they were, I would expect Obama to absolutely destroy Romney. The debates are about emotion and manipulation. Romney's fairly skilled in using those. Since the country clearly is still very, very bigoted, I expect Romney has a good chance to manipulate that in some way and make him appear to be the good guy. You should never underestimate the gullibility or foolishness of the American public.
    Debates are months away and you're playing the race card already? This has to be some sort of record.
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I'm not so sure Obama will clobber Romney in the debates. Remember, the debates aren't about logic, reason, or truth. If they were, I would expect Obama to absolutely destroy Romney. The debates are about emotion and manipulation. Romney's fairly skilled in using those. Since the country clearly is still very, very bigoted, I expect Romney has a good chance to manipulate that in some way and make him appear to be the good guy. You should never underestimate the gullibility or foolishness of the American public. Romney does have a chance against Obama in the debates.
    Romney is smarter than Obama. Romney has more real world experience. Obama has more Foreign policy experience. Obama also has a crappy record to defend. it depends if the debates are real debates or nothing more than speeches

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Debates are months away and you're playing the race card already? This has to be some sort of record.
    smart voters are bigoted against incompetence and people who get jobs due to their race rather than their resume

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Obama has this in the bag....


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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Obama has this in the bag....
    LOL-given how wrong you usually are on many other issues, this should give Romney some real confidence

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Romney is smarter than Obama. Romney has more real world experience. Obama has more Foreign policy experience. Obama also has a crappy record to defend. it depends if the debates are real debates or nothing more than speeches
    President Obama's foreign policy is incompetent. It can't be defended in a debate.

    The president may win reelection, but he won't be able to govern the country.

    I don't support Romney. He's too moderate.

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The referendum that your referring to may very well reverse itself and be a loser for the far right.
    I said if the election were today Obama would lose...but by november if he demonstrates the real ideas of the Norquist far right and he brings up examples like Scott walker...he will win...
    Walker appears poised to eke out a victory come June - in Wisconsin, no less. That's going to hurt Obama far more than it helps him.

    He needs to bring out Paul Ryans plan that will kill medicare...and replace it with his own plan..thats what he needs to do in my mind to assure he wins.
    I don't know - I think this is an underappreciated weakness for Obama; because if he brings up Medicare, then he has to deal with his own plan, which cuts benefits to current seniors and does so through rationing their care. That's a tricky sell for him.

    I'm betting that he leaves discussion of Medicare to lackey's and "independent groups" that can't be laid directly at his feet.

    Romney stands the best chance of screwing up in the next months CP...hes not going to be able to hide and evade soon...its down to two and the media is going to have at him..
    Meh. The Media has been having at him for about a month now - and his numbers are only moving up.

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    I don't understand how anyone can gauge who they will vote for off of presidential debates.

    you get to watch 2 out of the 10 or 12 total candidates deflect, give non-answers, and dance the political doublespeak tango....and then pretend you are "informed".

    i'll pay attention to the debates when they become actual debates..until then, they are merely entertainment.

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