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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I wouldve thought that too...but all the polls say the opposite that obamas base is more excited about him than romneys....by all the polls I mean rasmussen and gallup
    well yeah - conservatives aren't excited about Romney. but they are broken-glass voters to vote against Obama. in 2008, democrats were broken-glass to vote for Obama. Harder for them to get up to do that again, and they seem to not be achieving it thus far.

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    they aren't. But the conservative base is excited about firing President Obama. More so, I think, than the Democrat base is excited about reelecting him.
    Excited about the thought of it, most of them don't seem to believe in it or the guy that would replace him.
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    well yeah - conservatives aren't excited about Romney. but they are broken-glass voters to vote against Obama. in 2008, democrats were broken-glass to vote for Obama. Harder for them to get up to do that again, and they seem to not be achieving it thus far.
    I think the dynamic has changed...I think obama has picked up support in areas that he did not have in 2008...and some segments hes margin has widened....in contrast hes lost some of what he had in 2008...youth enthusiasm for one and the far left has dampened towards him.
    I do believe he will pick up votes from independents and some moderate GOP that are appalled by the war on labor that the teaparty is waging...

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    I answered somewhat sure only because I worry about another rigged election...if they did it once, they'll do it twice. Based on who Obama is, I'm very sure.
    Silly poor people
    Tax cuts are for the rich!

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I think the dynamic has changed...I think obama has picked up support in areas that he did not have in 2008...
    where?!?

    you may want to check out what has happened in the intervening time period

    and some segments hes margin has widened
    where?!?

    in contrast hes lost some of what he had in 2008...youth enthusiasm for one and the far left has dampened towards him.
    I do believe he will pick up votes from independents and some moderate GOP that are appalled by the war on labor that the teaparty is waging...
    Brother I think you are living a pipe-dream. Even in Wisconsin labor issues aren't even at the forefront of the Walker Recall.

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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I think the debt ceiling thing as a whole hurt the "tea party" brand. Being so unwilling to compromise that they would rather have our country not pay our bills was not good.
    It hurt my opinion (and a lot of other hardline Tea Partiers) of the Tea Partiers in the House because they did compromise and it hurt them with everyone else because they wouldn't initially. I think they tried to be what they were elected not to be, moderate, and it hurt them. They should have either drawn the line in the sand like they promised they would when they were campaigning or given in early to avoid all of the grandstanding and speculation that occured. As it is, they failed both ways. They failed to keep their campaign promises and allowed the media to demonize them. We'll see what they do this time around.
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Employment is improving more because people are getting discouraged and dropping out all together. Hard to sell that as a win. Economy improving? Growth is anemic, and may not even exist, once you take into account real inflation that includes the pocket-book expenses of food and energy. I would suspect that the only people who think that the economy is really getting that much better are those who are looking for it to. And Europe's problems have only just begun; that will be a slug we take to the face some time over the summer/fall.

    But Obama should be cleaning up in Wisconsin. I'm going to hold to my prediction that Walker wins the recall and that puts Wisconsin in play in November.
    U6 unemployment is dropping as well as U3, which means that overall the employment picture is improving. Growth is slow, but there, and much better than the shrinking that was happenening not long ago. I would think the only people denying that the economy is improving are those who don't want it to for political gains.
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    U6 unemployment is dropping as well as U3, which means that overall the employment picture is improving. Growth is slow, but there, and much better than the shrinking that was happenening not long ago. I would think the only people denying that the economy is improving are those who don't want it to for political gains.
    Meh, I wouldn't say it's improving either. It's stagnant. I think unemployment improving has just as much to do with people dropping out of the workforce all together as it does with jobs being found.
    The economy is improving at a slow rate. Definitely not at the rate I think it should considering the money spent to improve it. But I will not deny it is improving slightly. Gas prices are hurting it more than anything and there isn't much President Obama can do about that.
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Meh, I wouldn't say it's improving either. It's stagnant. I think unemployment improving has just as much to do with people dropping out of the workforce all together as it does with jobs being found.
    The economy is improving at a slow rate. Definitely not at the rate I think it should considering the money spent to improve it. But I will not deny it is improving slightly. Gas prices are hurting it more than anything and there isn't much President Obama can do about that.
    If it was just people dropping out of the workforce U6 would not be improving. The thing is, we are not spending money right now to improve the conomy, which is slowing recovery(cpwill's head just exploded at those words, but they are true).
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    Re: For Obama voters only!

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If it was just people dropping out of the workforce U6 would not be improving. The thing is, we are not spending money right now to improve the conomy, which is slowing recovery(cpwill's head just exploded at those words, but they are true).
    That's the thing. U6 assumes those people still want to work instead of just receive neverending unemployment.
    We have spent trillions of dollars with nothing but a bump in economic growth. President Obama's and the Dem's theory of economic growth has failed. Like I said, I'll give him the pass that is gas prices. Other than that, it has failed. Especially with the record debt we have accumulated. I firmly believe that if he had it his way, we'd be at about 17.5 to 18 trillion in debt by the end of his first term. That's astronomical.
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