View Poll Results: Is signing Norquist's anti-tax pledge un-American?

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  • Signing Norquist's pledge is anti-American

    13 56.52%
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    2 8.70%
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Thread: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    I voted other...its neither pro or anti american its partisan...

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It's not a matter of being a loyal American or not. It's a matter of PRINCIPLES; which are something this nation's political system lost contact with a long time ago.
    principles my arse....these 'representatives' sold out their constituents...they were elected to represent their districts/states, not the will of norquist.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    principles my arse....these 'representatives' sold out their constituents...they were elected to represent their districts/states, not the will of norquist.
    Exactly. These people who pledge their ass to Grover should be run out of Congress.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Exactly. These people who pledge their ass to Grover should be run out of Congress.
    without a doubt...

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its a anti-tax increase pledge. Funny how you left the Increase part out in order to make it seem as though republicans want to abolish taxes altogether.


    It could argued that not signing Norquits no tax increase pledge is disloyal to America. These clowns in office already spend more then what they receive. So why on God's green earth do you think its a smart idea to give these clowns more money? Do you honestly think these clowns in office are going to magically stop increasing the amount of money they spend just because you give them more money? If these people were actually serious about reducing the debt they would start cutting programs left and right and get back to the basic. Make the cuts first and then talk increases.

    You're right, it's a pro-tax pledge.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftofabbie View Post
    You're right, it's a pro-tax pledge.
    that makes no sense (again)

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that makes no sense (again)
    So you think it is a neutral-tax pledge?

    Pro-tax

    Anti-tax

    Neutral-tax


    Which is it?

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    I'd never vote for anyone who signed it. The way I see it, signing it will have one of two outcomes, neither of which I think is good.

    1. They sign the pledge and vote for a raise in taxes anyway. Which would mean that they're dishonest and only signed it to get votes. And although that isn't exactly rare in US politics, it's still a bad thing.

    2. They sign it and hold to it, meaning they've limited their options for dealing with problems that come up which might require tax increases. As distasteful as the idea of raising taxes is, I think reducing our debt is more important. I think cutting spending should be the first tool in reducing debt, but I really can't see us cutting spending fast enough to reduce the debt by any meaningful amount in any reasonable time frame. I think a tax increase is going to be necessary if we really want to do something about our debt.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftofabbie View Post
    So you think it is a neutral-tax pledge?

    Pro-tax

    Anti-tax

    Neutral-tax


    Which is it?
    anti-tax-increase.... as you've already been told.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Yeah, it's too bad we don't have any principled anti-segregation congressmen anymore. Principals are great, it's why gays are still a targeted minority by the federal government. It's why we had a Civil War. Yeah, unmovable ideological principles are something we are desperately missing these days.
    LOL. You're a Moderate. You wouldn't know what Principles were if someone engraved them on the insides of your eyelids.

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    principles my arse....these 'representatives' sold out their constituents...they were elected to represent their districts/states, not the will of norquist.
    When what their constituents want violated the document they swore to uphold and protect, damn straight the will of the people goes out the window.

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