View Poll Results: Is signing Norquist's anti-tax pledge un-American?

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  • Signing Norquist's pledge is anti-American

    13 56.52%
  • Signing Norquist's pledge is pro-American

    2 8.70%
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    8 34.78%
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Thread: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    It's pledging to do what is expected of them by an entity other than the American People. It should be illegal.
    If not illegal, grounds for being voted out of office at least.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Does the great economic crash referred to as the Great Depression ring any bells?
    why yes it does.... the Great Depression is when my family went from working class to very very poor.... which gave me inspiration to not be poor any longer.
    my father was a lot like you and other statists here.... he died a very poor man, still waiting for someone to deliver the lifestyle he thought he was entitled to.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Until they found out Obama wasn't going to play ball. All the big Wall Street money is going to Romney this election.
    you mean Obama isn't courting wall street money, and getting it?

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    why yes it does.... the Great Depression is when my family went from working class to very very poor.... which gave me inspiration to not be poor any longer.
    my father was a lot like you and other statists here.... he died a very poor man, still waiting for someone to deliver the lifestyle he thought he was entitled to.
    Either a there are enough jobs that pay a living wage, or you have poverty that require a safety net to prevent rampant crime or revolution. Like most people, I think jobs that pay a living wage are needed and making the wealthy that are not creating jobs in this country having their tax cuts ended will be needed to turn our economy around.

    People have a clear choice this election whether they wish to continue with the supply side economics/financial deregulation of the last 30 years, or start investing in the consumer class that drives demand necessary for our economy to prosper.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you mean Obama isn't courting wall street money, and getting it?
    Analysis: Wall St. cash flows to Romney over Obama

    "(Reuters) - The captains of Wall Street have picked a presidential candidate for 2012 and it is Republican Mitt Romney, rather than Democratic President Barack Obama, campaign donation records show."

    Analysis: Wall St. cash flows to Romney over Obama | Reuters

    Can't blame them after Obama's Wall Street regulatory reform, and additional reform planned by the Democrats.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Either a there are enough jobs that pay a living wage, or you have poverty that require a safety net to prevent rampant crime or revolution. Like most people, I think jobs that pay a living wage are needed and making the wealthy that are not creating jobs in this country having their tax cuts ended will be needed to turn our economy around.

    People have a clear choice this election whether they wish to continue with the supply side economics/financial deregulation of the last 30 years, or start investing in the consumer class that drives demand necessary for our economy to prosper.
    you are entitled to your opinion.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Analysis: Wall St. cash flows to Romney over Obama

    "(Reuters) - The captains of Wall Street have picked a presidential candidate for 2012 and it is Republican Mitt Romney, rather than Democratic President Barack Obama, campaign donation records show."

    Analysis: Wall St. cash flows to Romney over Obama | Reuters

    Can't blame them after Obama's Wall Street regulatory reform, and additional reform planned by the Democrats.
    wasn't it Obama who just raised 2 million from a fundraising held by Tony James, the head of Blackstone ( a private equity firm)?

    why yes, yes it is.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    wasn't it Obama who just raised 2 million from a fundraising held by Tony James, the head of Blackstone ( a private equity firm)?

    why yes, yes it is.
    Doesn't change that Romney leads Obama in Wall Street money according to campaign donation records as I've shown.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Already typed it once, why not recycle...
    Regardless of what this pledge says it does (which is utter bull****, in my opinion) There's one sentence from Norquist that stands out: "It is difficult to imagine somebody winning a primary without taking the pledge."

    Let that sink in for a minute. That sounds a lot like coercion to me, which is illegal. Plus, a pledge written up by some lobbyist that is admitted under a thin veil to be a prerequisite for winning the Primary is not something that has the American People in mind. This pledge wasn't written by the taxpayer, it was written by a lobbyist, which in itself is one gigantic godamned red flag.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Doesn't change that Romney leads Obama in Wall Street money according to campaign donation records as I've shown.
    i'm sure he will lead obama in wall street contributions.. but let's not pretend Obama isn't going after and taking wall street money.. he most certainly is.

    how much of a funding lead does Obama have?.. is it still 10 to 1?

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