View Poll Results: Is signing Norquist's anti-tax pledge un-American?

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  • Signing Norquist's pledge is anti-American

    13 56.52%
  • Signing Norquist's pledge is pro-American

    2 8.70%
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Thread: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong-it comes from too many people addicted to sucking on the government teat.

    You mean like Wall Street banksters?

    Or those 2-year old kids you always see lobbying Congressmen at high-powered dinners in Washington?

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftofabbie View Post
    You mean like Wall Street banksters?

    Or those 2-year old kids you always see lobbying Congressmen at high-powered dinners in Washington?
    who do you think those wall street bankers supported in the last election? and they aren't the ones who have lost the ability to compete and have become addled by entitlements.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by leftofabbie View Post
    So, is signing Norquist's "no tax" pledge disloyal to Americans?
    It's pledging to do what is expected of them by an entity other than the American People. It should be illegal.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong-it comes from too many people addicted to sucking on the government teat.
    At this point, I think we've all seen your GOP bumper sticker.....................
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    what is this purpose if this ( false) factoid?
    The purpose of the statistic is to help explain why our economy is in the crapper. As noted previously, "The lesson of the Great Crash was that unequal enrichment provokes asset bubbles, excessive demand for debt and, finally, economic failure."
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    It's pledging to do what is expected of them by an entity other than the American People. It should be illegal.
    Already typed it once, why not recycle...

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Excuse me friends, but it seems you're in dire need of reorientation to reality.

    This pledge pledges nothing to Grover Norquist. It only pledges to the taxpayer. Here is an example of the pledge, for the U.S. Senate

    http://www.atr.org/userfiles/Senate%20Pledge(2).pdf

    "I, ______________ , pledge to the taxpayers of the state
    of ______________ , and to the American people that I will:
    ONE, oppose any and all efforts to increase the marginal income tax
    rates for individuals and/or businesses; and
    TWO, oppose any net reduction or elimination of deductions and
    credits, unless matched dollar for dollar by further reducing tax rates."

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The purpose of the statistic is to help explain why our economy is in the crapper. As noted previously, "The lesson of the Great Crash was that unequal enrichment provokes asset bubbles, excessive demand for debt and, finally, economic failure."
    ahh.. the false factoid is meant to give a false explanation of the economy crisis... okay, thanks for the clarification.

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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Maybe I missed it but what is your plan for November.
    The reverse of what was done over the last 30 years to create the income disparity. We will need to end the tax cuts for the wealthy that are not creating jobs in this country, reduce our excessive military spending, and re-regulate financial institutions.
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    awesome.... now you just have to show where income equality has caused a collapse .. anywhere....ever.

    I know it's going to be hard, but one day you'll have to come to grips with the fact that there will be poor people, and there will be rich people..... and that gap doesn't cause countries to collapse...well, it hasn't caused a country to collapse in all of human history thus far, anyways.
    Does the great economic crash referred to as the Great Depression ring any bells?
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    Re: Who are Norquist pledge-signers loyal to - the American People or someone else?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who do you think those wall street bankers supported in the last election? and they aren't the ones who have lost the ability to compete and have become addled by entitlements.
    Until they found out Obama wasn't going to play ball. All the big Wall Street money is going to Romney this election.
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