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Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

It only counts as an American Manufactured good if...

  • Any of the parts are made in America

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 25% of the parts are American

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 50% of the parts are American

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • 75% of the parts are American

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nothing is American made because there's always something built outside the US in any product

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • American workers, in an American plant, making a product in America

    Votes: 5 50.0%

  • Total voters
    10
none of the above
for most nations in this world, little has EVER been 100% home grown, in every aspect.
Imports are necessary, always have been, always will be.
Old fashioned management, thinks, design, has created problems.
This can be overcome with a first class education and communications system..
Right now, things, IMO, can be much better..
An attitude change by many, both labor and management and ownership..
But, today, its world manufacturing, NOT American( nor German or Japanese) - this is from our isolationist past, and no longer cuts anything.
 
The only time something should be considered American Made is if all the finished parts are made in American put together by American workers. Personally I would like to see a percentage to indicate how much of the product is actually made in America.Its deceptive advertising to say that something is made in American if only 50% of it was actually made in America or if it was only assembled here with all the parts made somewhere.Its like saying something is a 100% orange juice on a carton or bottle if its from concentrate or something says 100% alcohol in big letters and little tiny letters that say "in 94% water" on a bottle of beer.
We are masters at "deceptive advertising" - and this must stop..
Its nearly impossible to state the percentage of a product "made in America".
 
none of the above
for most nations in this world, little has EVER been 100% home grown, in every aspect.
Imports are necessary, always have been, always will be.
Old fashioned management, thinks, design, has created problems.
This can be overcome with a first class education and communications system..
Right now, things, IMO, can be much better..
An attitude change by many, both labor and management and ownership..
But, today, its world manufacturing, NOT American( nor German or Japanese) - this is from our isolationist past, and no longer cuts anything.

Guess you haven't noticed the rise of corrupt and/or authoritarian regimes, constant wars, the destruction of the 1st world economies, so on and so forth.
 
I believe that "cliche" is the work you were looking for.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck. They are overpaid and that's why their jobs are being sent to China.
Simple solutions from simple minds.
My mind is simple as well, but, one must always seek good and fair solutions, the answers, I have not.
But its NOT right to knock labor only.
 
I spend my days in an office doing real work.
And who made the desk, computer, or chair you're using? Who built the building? Who built the road or rail line that got you there?

It takes everyone to make this thing called society work. If you don't even understand that simple idea then I hope you're still young enough to learn ...
 
I was employed, and 95% or more of the parts were imported. In fact, it was because those parts were imported, that allowed me to have a job. So I'm not sure there is a connection between the two.



Hm.. Somehow I don't think you can force other countries to castrate their manufacturing sector, just because we have. If you demand that company X in China must have regulations of such and such, they'll refuse. If we deny trading with them. That will hurt us.

Because now we'll have to pay for more expensive parts from somewhere else. But I promise you some other country isn't going to have that problem. Then Sweden, or France, or whoever, will buy from China, and make the same product.

So now our domestic manufacturing is going to go out of business because their costs are higher than France or where ever, that is buying their parts more cheaply from China.

Thus we'll end up losing even more manufacturing jobs, in a vain attempt to 'even the playing field'.



No, but because of the regulations and restrictions and eco-nut rules, this is where we're at. We have billions of tons of domestic mineral resources, and yet we are not allowed to get them because of stupid government policies.

i think one of the best things that we can and should export is first world working conditions and pollution controls. the tool we have to do this with is tariff-free access to our market. certainly, we cannot force the third world to adopt OSHA. we can, however, make their product as expensive as one that is manufactured humanely.

i'd ask you if you personally would work in a Chinese factory or live downstream from one, but i think that the answer is obvious. there isn't a person on this board who would do that or would expose their kids to those conditions. that, in my opinion, indicates a problem.
 
Then why claim "In the US beer is not allowed to be 6% by regulation."?
Again, what I've seen is that if it's over 6% it's not labeled as "beer", this is US Government Regulation I've been told. What you call beer can be over 6%; but, find a bottle legally in the US that is 'beer' that is over 6% labeled as beer. I've been clear about this from the beginning.
 
I hate paperwork so much that I'd think their jobs were harder.

In many ways it can be. I've had an office job when I got out of HS working at Citigroup. The factory work I do I am relatively higher up though and actually do far more paperwork than that including profile sheets, checks, numbers etc all by hand. Would much rather just have to press tab ctrl and use a number pad if I could.
 
My favorite career is driving truck. On average didn't have to interface with anyone more than once a day, didn't have to interface with employer more than twice a day, had only about 10 minutes a day of paperwork, didn't have to kiss customer ass or pretend I care about what they think, didn't have to sell my soul like those in marketing do, when I wanted a vacation I'd simply quit for a month or two and do whatever the hell I wanted, spent 2 hours finding another job that payed better.

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It's awesome having a job that is in such high demand your ass gets kissed instead of the other way around. That's what the globalists want for you all, to lower the demand for your job until you're groveling like a slave for little or no wages.
 
Guess you haven't noticed the rise of corrupt and/or authoritarian regimes, constant wars, the destruction of the 1st world economies, so on and so forth.
I have noticed that man is not above lying - to try to prove a point...
What you are describing has been going on thru-out my life-time...and thru-out history..
I doubt if the world has known a day of peace since day one..
But, what does all of this have to do with manufacturing and its place of being ??
 
It's sad such a question needs asked.
Not really. Note that JohnWOlin lists his Occupation: Machine operator (when not laid off), soon studying to be Power Plant Operator. He doesn't want a real job ether.
 
Not really. Note that JohnWOlin lists his Occupation: Machine operator (when not laid off), soon studying to be Power Plant Operator. He doesn't want a real job ether.

I dont understand if everyone is being pious or not anymore. I quit. On a side note I was laid off due to tsunamis causing suppliers of suppliers trouble. Nothing that happened to our suppliers just the business. When I came back from a month and a half lay off I had a lot of work afterwards. As for power plant operating look it up. It pays incredibly well and is essentially a office job mixed with light physical labor.
 
I dont understand if everyone is being pious or not anymore. I quit. On a side note I was laid off due to tsunamis causing suppliers of suppliers trouble. Nothing that happened to our suppliers just the business. When I came back from a month and a half lay off I had a lot of work afterwards. As for power plant operating look it up. It pays incredibly well and is essentially a office job mixed with light physical labor.

There seems to be an implication among the locals that working in an office, is not "real work" because someone somewhere, randomly decided that there's some arbitrary specification for what real work is.

Me and "OhIsee.Then", happen to disagree completely with this rather mindless notion. While there are some clearly obvious examples of cushy office jobs (for a very brief time as a contract service employee, between contracts, I was told to answer the phone.... when the secretary was busy or at lunch. Most boring couple of weeks I had), most office jobs such as an engineer like OhIsee.Then, are not easy at all, and require lots of hard work.

The idea that one job is 'real work' and another is 'not real' simply because one focuses more on physical movement, and the other focuses on mental ability, does not mean it is not a 'real work'.

In fact, I would even suggest that all jobs, are 'real work'. Some require more, and others less, some physical, some mental, some repetitive, some dynamic. But they are all 'real work'.

Regardless, we were not picking on you specifically. You just happen to chime in at the wrong time. It was Lord Tammerlain who was being snooty and arrogant.
 
Please tell me, I was a design engineer for about 30 years. Did I do real work?
You didn't specify what you were designing - but to me the answer depends on how much of your time was spent making your design actually work instead of just doing CAD/calculations. For civil engineers that means spending at least one or two days a month walking project sites.
 
There seems to be an implication among the locals that working in an office, is not "real work" because someone somewhere, randomly decided that there's some arbitrary specification for what real work is.

Me and "OhIsee.Then", happen to disagree completely with this rather mindless notion. While there are some clearly obvious examples of cushy office jobs (for a very brief time as a contract service employee, between contracts, I was told to answer the phone.... when the secretary was busy or at lunch. Most boring couple of weeks I had), most office jobs such as an engineer like OhIsee.Then, are not easy at all, and require lots of hard work.

The idea that one job is 'real work' and another is 'not real' simply because one focuses more on physical movement, and the other focuses on mental ability, does not mean it is not a 'real work'.

In fact, I would even suggest that all jobs, are 'real work'. Some require more, and others less, some physical, some mental, some repetitive, some dynamic. But they are all 'real work'.

Regardless, we were not picking on you specifically. You just happen to chime in at the wrong time. It was Lord Tammerlain who was being snooty and arrogant.

I assure you keeping a machine running 24/7 and keeping it from exploding is indeed hard work that takes a lot of mechanical aptitude. I really don't care I got on that spiel as a result of the other guy saying anything produced in America comes from overpaid people.
 
I dont understand if everyone is being pious or not anymore. I quit. ... As for power plant operating look it up. It pays incredibly well and is essentially a office job mixed with light physical labor.
Sounds like engineering to me. Maybe I did have a job. Thanks.
 
I have noticed that man is not above lying - to try to prove a point...
What you are describing has been going on thru-out my life-time...and thru-out history..
I doubt if the world has known a day of peace since day one..
But, what does all of this have to do with manufacturing and its place of being ??

Oh brother, apparently you guys won't believe until you're on a steady diet of government cheese and living in a van down by the river.
 
You didn't specify what you were designing - but to me the answer depends on how much of your time was spent making your design actually work instead of just doing CAD/calculations. For civil engineers that means spending at least one or two days a month walking project sites.
I'm trying to get to the root of your view. Since you wrote "just doing CAD/calculations" is just that you think that a computer is doing the work, not the person? And to me "walking project sites" is similar to getting up from the desk and walking through the factory or a walk around the industrial park to clear the head.
 
I'm trying to get to the root of your view. Since you wrote "just doing CAD/calculations" is just that you think that a computer is doing the work, not the person? And to me "walking project sites" is similar to getting up from the desk and walking through the factory or a walk around the industrial park to clear the head.
Oh, no, I understand what CAD and calculations entail since that's also part of being a surveyor. :) If your type of engineering is setting up production lines then, yes, walking through the factory and inspecting the work, seeing how the design was actually built, seeing how the contractors had to alter your design because of errors, and so on makes the difference to me. If you're an architect then walking through the office park, checking out facade designs, looking at steps and handrails, etc, would qualify - if you're designing a building. (Better yet, visit a building site!) If you're an EE then visiting the shop and talking to the techs, maybe doing some testing or soldering of your own, would apply. It means getting away from the desk and looking at how your work is being used and what problems people are having with it. Since engineering can encompass such a wide variety of fields it's difficult to write a specific sentence that would take them all in at once. Generally it's a willingness to get your hands dirty in your own kind of work instead of just directing others from a desk.
 
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Please tell me, I was a design engineer for about 30 years. Did I do real work?

I believed you have missed the intent of my post

the person I quoted stated that US factory workers were over paid and that he was working in an office doing "real work" which I took to mean that factory work, construction etc was not "real" work. It was meant to redicule the specific poster, and not all posters who work in an office (which I do primarily).

It was meant to cause that poster to get off his low horse and realize that real work takes many forms, and is not done by people specifically in an office or the factory floor
 
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