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  • Any of the parts are made in America

    0 0%
  • 25% of the parts are American

    0 0%
  • 50% of the parts are American

    4 36.36%
  • 75% of the parts are American

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  • Nothing is American made because there's always something built outside the US in any product

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  • American workers, in an American plant, making a product in America

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Thread: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I dont understand if everyone is being pious or not anymore. I quit. ... As for power plant operating look it up. It pays incredibly well and is essentially a office job mixed with light physical labor.
    Sounds like engineering to me. Maybe I did have a job. Thanks.

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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I have noticed that man is not above lying - to try to prove a point...
    What you are describing has been going on thru-out my life-time...and thru-out history..
    I doubt if the world has known a day of peace since day one..
    But, what does all of this have to do with manufacturing and its place of being ??
    Oh brother, apparently you guys won't believe until you're on a steady diet of government cheese and living in a van down by the river.

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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You didn't specify what you were designing - but to me the answer depends on how much of your time was spent making your design actually work instead of just doing CAD/calculations. For civil engineers that means spending at least one or two days a month walking project sites.
    I'm trying to get to the root of your view. Since you wrote "just doing CAD/calculations" is just that you think that a computer is doing the work, not the person? And to me "walking project sites" is similar to getting up from the desk and walking through the factory or a walk around the industrial park to clear the head.

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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I'm trying to get to the root of your view. Since you wrote "just doing CAD/calculations" is just that you think that a computer is doing the work, not the person? And to me "walking project sites" is similar to getting up from the desk and walking through the factory or a walk around the industrial park to clear the head.
    Oh, no, I understand what CAD and calculations entail since that's also part of being a surveyor. If your type of engineering is setting up production lines then, yes, walking through the factory and inspecting the work, seeing how the design was actually built, seeing how the contractors had to alter your design because of errors, and so on makes the difference to me. If you're an architect then walking through the office park, checking out facade designs, looking at steps and handrails, etc, would qualify - if you're designing a building. (Better yet, visit a building site!) If you're an EE then visiting the shop and talking to the techs, maybe doing some testing or soldering of your own, would apply. It means getting away from the desk and looking at how your work is being used and what problems people are having with it. Since engineering can encompass such a wide variety of fields it's difficult to write a specific sentence that would take them all in at once. Generally it's a willingness to get your hands dirty in your own kind of work instead of just directing others from a desk.
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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Please tell me, I was a design engineer for about 30 years. Did I do real work?
    I believed you have missed the intent of my post

    the person I quoted stated that US factory workers were over paid and that he was working in an office doing "real work" which I took to mean that factory work, construction etc was not "real" work. It was meant to redicule the specific poster, and not all posters who work in an office (which I do primarily).

    It was meant to cause that poster to get off his low horse and realize that real work takes many forms, and is not done by people specifically in an office or the factory floor
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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    I spend my days in an office doing real work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkles View Post
    There seems to be an implication among the locals that working in an office, is not "real work" because someone somewhere, randomly decided that there's some arbitrary specification for what real work is.

    Me and "OhIsee.Then", happen to disagree completely with this rather mindless notion. While there are some clearly obvious examples of cushy office jobs (for a very brief time as a contract service employee, between contracts, I was told to answer the phone.... when the secretary was busy or at lunch. Most boring couple of weeks I had), most office jobs such as an engineer like OhIsee.Then, are not easy at all, and require lots of hard work.

    The idea that one job is 'real work' and another is 'not real' simply because one focuses more on physical movement, and the other focuses on mental ability, does not mean it is not a 'real work'.

    In fact, I would even suggest that all jobs, are 'real work'. Some require more, and others less, some physical, some mental, some repetitive, some dynamic. But they are all 'real work'.

    Regardless, we were not picking on you specifically. You just happen to chime in at the wrong time. It was Lord Tammerlain who was being snooty and arrogant.

    Actually I would say it was Johnny Rebson who was being snooty, calling american factory workers lazy and overpaid, then stating that office work is real work ( which I took to mean that factory work is not real work)

    Truth be told I have the same opinion regarding work as you do,
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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    ...and I didn't have to deal with office politics.

    *puts hands on head and leans back*

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    Re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Even if China/Indonesia/Mexico'ese workers magically started earning 1st world wages tomorrow, the globalists still would have only accomplished this feat by destroying the economic prospects of an entire generation of Americans, putting the US into deep debt, and destroying valuable manufacturing market share.









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