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  • Any of the parts are made in America

    0 0%
  • 25% of the parts are American

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  • 50% of the parts are American

    4 36.36%
  • 75% of the parts are American

    0 0%
  • Nothing is American made because there's always something built outside the US in any product

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  • American workers, in an American plant, making a product in America

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Thread: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Hahahahaah.

    This thread is totally not going the way Sparkles intended.
    Hmmm? Actually I had no intentions whatsoever. I was curious to see what people's answers were.
    That's why I asked the question.

    If anything, my expectation was to find out that everyone agreed with you. I am somewhat of a pessimist in regards to my view of average Americans. I'm usually shocked when someone agrees with me on anything.

    However, as of this post, the voting is 3 to 2 in favor of my general view that American workers, in an American plant, building a product in America, is logically a manufactured product in America.... and I have yet to vote. I already know my answer. I'm just letting others answer.

    So I find your post rather ironic given I've been surprised by how reasonable people are.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Methinks the OP expects are certain point to be made obvious through er carefully worded question.

    It has not.
    I tried to make the question as clear as possible. Obviously I'm not going to sweat over it if some still can't grasp a simple question.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    If it was made in America, it was made by overpaid factory workers.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkles View Post
    I tried to make the question as clear as possible. Obviously I'm not going to sweat over it if some still can't grasp a simple question.
    Pretty sure I'm at least on the same level as you, Sparkles.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    If it was made in America, it was made by overpaid factory workers.
    That's debatable. Some factory workers are over paid compared to the market wages for the work being done.

    Some on the other hand or not. They are paid pretty much what the work is worth paying.

    It depends. I can only think of one time where I was paid far less than what the work was worth. And I left.

    All the other jobs I've had, generally have paid me just about what I was worth. Only one paid me more, and that's because they wanted to promote me to management. I wasn't interested though.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Pretty sure I'm at least on the same level as you, Sparkles.
    As far as I can tell, you seem pretty bright. Your responses were thoughtful and logical. That's why I attempted to clarify my question in response to you.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    if a good chunk of it is made here, i consider it American made. probably 50+ percent.

    however, it's generally enough for me that the company at least cares enough to employ some Americans who need the manufacturing jobs. i certainly want the same thing for Chinese workers, as well, but i find it seedy when a company just goes there to take advantage of minimal worker protections and pollution controls. i find Apple's manufacturing strategy somewhat disappointing, especially consider how much they charge for a finished product. but foxconn doesn't just make Apple products. that company needs to be put under the microscope big time.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Speaking of beer- in an Okie bar the beer is 3.2

    Overpriced American workers is an empty clique.

    50% American is made, Assembled in America as a dodge

    We have a saying out here- something is worth what another is willing to give for it the day you want to sell it. Apple figured that out.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if a good chunk of it is made here, i consider it American made. probably 50+ percent.

    however, it's generally enough for me that the company at least cares enough to employ some Americans who need the manufacturing jobs. i certainly want the same thing for Chinese workers, as well, but i find it seedy when a company just goes there to take advantage of minimal worker protections and pollution controls. i find Apple's manufacturing strategy somewhat disappointing, especially consider how much they charge for a finished product. but foxconn doesn't just make Apple products. that company needs to be put under the microscope big time.
    Alrighty. So why 50%? Why does that matter? Why not 60%, or 40%? What's magical about 50%?

    And again, out of curiosity, does it matter that the parts used to make those parts, came from outside the country?

    For example, those relays I referred to in my post, that were made in America. If I broke that relay open and found that the individual parts that made that relay came from China and Mexico or Malaysia, would that make it no longer an American part? And thus if that dropped the percentage of American parts down to below 50%, would that make it a non-American made product?

    You realize that China right now is the dominate supplier of all rare earths for all electronics, so nearly everything electronic, if you trace back their origins back to the raw materials, the vast majority are all exported metals from China.

    Does that matter? Or is that not relevant?

    I'm just curious how you look at this.

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    re: Are goods manufactured in American, American Manufactured goods [W: 41]

    I had a much longer post originally but internet screwed up lol. Anyways, I think if the company makes products from raw materials it is American made, if they make the stuff from pre-assembled parts it is simply assembled here. I work at a place that makes window sills for Honda, Toyota, Suzuki and Mitsubishi. Most of our raw materials are American, and everything is totally made there. You would have no idea what care and hard work goes into making your window sills and well, we also make rubber for hoods and trunks also. Most blue collar jobs I've ever had everything is made there from raw materials. Of course, I've always worked for "foreign" companies that make stuff for the likes of Toyota and Mercedes.

    I'm a big believer in we need to make pre-assembly to manufacturing "cities" much like FOXCONN in China. It would take heavy subsidization by federal, state, and local governments but if our country put its mind to it something like a iPhone saying "Designed in California, Made in USA" could be achievable in the next ten years.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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