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  • "Told you so. Our dependence on fossil fuels is unsustainable."

    0 0%
  • "Told you so. The Federal Reserve completely destroyed the dollar."

    6 25.00%
  • "Told you so. The government spent and spent our grandchildren's money."

    7 29.17%
  • "Told you so. Should have taxed the rich more, Bush tax cuts killed us."

    4 16.67%
  • "Told you so. The corporations have completely wrecked the economy."

    4 16.67%
  • "Told you so. Union bosses have completely wrecked the economy."

    4 16.67%
  • "Told you so. The New World Order is here to take away American sovereignty!"

    3 12.50%
  • "Social Darwinism baby, let the strong survive."

    1 4.17%
  • Other

    9 37.50%
  • "Dah Bears."

    3 12.50%
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Thread: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events, what

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    But I find it a little creepy when people sound gleeful about the end of the world, or at least the collapse of civilization. That would suck. .... Probably every one of us on this board would die. And probably everyone we've ever met. Even the folks like Goshin with the cowboy fantasies. !

    Bud, if you can find one single quote where I seriously say something gleeful about the possible collapse of civilization, I'll donate to DP in your name.

    I'm hoping it DOESN'T happen. Yeah, I'm probably better prepared than 99%, but it would still SUCK. I'm an experienced man and I know there are no guarantees, and that all incoming bullets are marked "to whom it may concern", and that the people I love are not immune to bullets, starvation or other hazards of TEOTWAWKI.

    I prefer civilization thank you very much.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    When foreigners star to panic and dump the dollar, the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events, like gasoline being $8 a gallon, and low value compact cars costing $100,000, what are you going to say?
    I'm betting a asteroid the size of Brazil will land in the Pacific before that happens.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    When foreigners star to panic and dump the dollar, the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events, like gasoline being $8 a gallon, and low value compact cars costing $100,000, what are you going to say?
    Most likely, "If you're not looking to help out then get the hell away from my property. Only people who can pull their own weight live here and I don't give a **** about your needs or my capacity to feed you."

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I would probably just say a four letter expletive that begins with "f".

    But I find it a little creepy when people sound gleeful about the end of the world, or at least the collapse of civilization. That would suck. No amount of feeling smug about why it happened would change the fact that a lot of people would die. How many people require medication to remain healthy? How many people in hospitals would survive the lack of power? How many people living in any kind of urban environment, or out in the desert in the west, would have access to enough food and water? How many people would freeze? There is nothing good that can come from such a wide scale disaster. Probably every one of us on this board would die. And probably everyone we've ever met. Even the folks like Goshin with the cowboy fantasies. It is our technology and our science that makes us live better than the middle ages.

    For f#$^'s sake... WE WOULD ALL RUN OUT OF TOILET PAPER REALLY QUICKLY!! I don't care what it takes to prevent us from having to crap in a bucket and wipe with a towel and then have to wash that towel, I want that thing done. Anything to keep the toilets running and the paper stocked. Let's focus on the real priorities!
    Who, aside from religious nutjobs who clamor for an Apocalypse and the return of their god, has expressed gleeful anticipation in discussing a doomsday/collapse scenario?

    I don't even think Doomsday Preppers want to resort to their preparations.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    It don't take very many troops to "push down the uprising of students", which doesn't exist.
    Except it's not just students. It's also laborers, who aren't enjoying the fruits of modernization as much as others. This has led to a faction in the Chinese Communist Party known as the Chinese New Left, which seeks to halt the capitalistic surge of the People's Republic of China and instead reintroduce more socialistic programs in the country, especially community-based ones in the rural areas of China.

    One of these members of the Chinese New Left is Bo Xilai. He was a high-ranking political member of the PRC, but he was a factor in the Wang Lijun Incident. Wang's political career was closely tied to that of Bo's rise in the PRC. Wang was being investigated for possible corruption and, seeking asylum, visited the U.S. consulate and was debriefed. This debriefing revealed schism within the Chinese Communist Party.

    Bo then suffered a downfall of his career and as government and party officials deliberated, the Chinese micro-blogging community speculated wildly, even furthering rumors of a coup. This led the PRC to increase their censorship of the internet to prohibit further speculation on these decisive matters.

    Explanations of it can be found at the following links.

    Bo Xilai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Wang Lijun incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So thousands of micro-bloggers aren't "a few" students. Neither is a major political official.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Hey, I have an idea, talk about something that actually happens, or at the very least stay on topic.
    You mean like all the micro-bloggers that have been talking about the corruption of the PRC government so much that the CCP had to shut down internet access and now the Chinese people have to talk about such things in code?

    Top Chinese Twitter-like site shuts down user accounts for political rumors | ITworld

    China?s bloggers talk politics using code - Taipei Times
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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Except it's not just students. It's also laborers, who aren't enjoying the fruits of modernization as much as others.

    oooookay It don't take very many troops to "push down the uprising of students + laborers", which doesn't exist. (especially when it's illegal to own weapons, forgot that bit.)

    This has led to a faction in the Chinese Communist Party known as the Chinese New Left, which seeks to halt the capitalistic surge of the People's Republic of China and instead reintroduce more socialistic programs in the country, especially community-based ones in the rural areas of China.
    Uhuh

    One of these members of the Chinese New Left is Bo Xilai. He was a high-ranking political member of the PRC, but he was a factor in the Wang Lijun Incident. Wang's political career was closely tied to that of Bo's rise in the PRC. Wang was being investigated for possible corruption and, seeking asylum, visited the U.S. consulate and was debriefed. This debriefing revealed schism within the Chinese Communist Party.
    uhuh

    Bo then suffered a downfall of his career and as government and party officials deliberated, the Chinese micro-blogging community speculated wildly, even furthering rumors of a coup. This led the PRC to increase their censorship of the internet to prohibit further speculation on these decisive matters.

    Explanations of it can be found at the following links.

    Bo Xilai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Wang Lijun incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So thousands of micro-bloggers aren't "a few" students. Neither is a major political official.
    uhuh



    You mean like all the micro-bloggers that have been talking about the corruption of the PRC government so much that the CCP had to shut down internet access and now the Chinese people have to talk about such things in code?

    Top Chinese Twitter-like site shuts down user accounts for political rumors | ITworld

    China?s bloggers talk politics using code - Taipei Times
    uhuh

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    When foreigners star to panic and dump the dollar, the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events, like gasoline being $8 a gallon, and low value compact cars costing $100,000, what are you going to say?
    Foreigners panic? Why should they panic when they are the biggest financier of U.S. debts - abt $1 trillion. Its the U.S who is gonna be pannicky. So the question is does U.S. have a Plan B if China dumps U.S. dollars.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    oooookay It don't take very many troops to "push down the uprising of students + laborers", which doesn't exist. (especially when it's illegal to own weapons, forgot that bit.)



    Uhuh



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    And I've provided links backing up my claims and you've provided no support for yours.

    So I still win out in the end.
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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And I've provided links backing up my claims and you've provided no support for yours.

    So I still win out in the end.
    yeeeaaaaah, well you know China is a Communist country that bans it's citizens from owning any weapons whatsoever. The only hope you have for a regime change is a Boris Yeltsin type of deal so unless you are an expert on Chinese culture/religion/history where you have the pulse of the Chinese Army you can't really say.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Foreigners panic? Why should they panic when they are the biggest financier of U.S. debts - abt $1 trillion. Its the U.S who is gonna be pannicky. So the question is does U.S. have a Plan B if China dumps U.S. dollars.
    It's in China's best interest to keep the dollar afloat (while simultaneously devaluing their currency).

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    I don't think the dollar will collapse like some Hollywood disaster movie. But by the time our debt builds to the point the rest of the world is tired of us 'leading' our military will be a shell. With a few exceptions our naval ship building ability is shot, our ships are old, and if we continue down the debt road to maintain a 'strong' military like 'conservatives' want soon we will need bake sales for bombers.

    When the rest of the world gets tired of our sass they will show us just how much fun being dictated to is. We enjoy forcing the rest of the world to toe some austerity line, our turn will not be tasty. The pain will be felt by all because when the dollar is devalued, even those who sit in haughty judgement of the nanny staters will be in a soupline. Stocks rarely pay a living wage in dividends these days, the value in the stock price is what rewards CEOs, not the payout each quarter. Fake fortunes will be lost and only true negotiable hard assets will have value. You own 1,000 shares of Google/Honeywell/Hathaway??? You own 100 pounds of gold??? BFD, I own 1,000 rounds of 7.62 and 50 head of cattle, guess your shoveling sh*t for me...

    While I am getting cynical in my old age, mostly due to reading about the collapse of other world powers in their turn, the USofA will continue, China did after the fall of their Emperor, it is just internationals will dictate to us what we will do and how we will do it.

    Where to place the blame? I don't know, maybe when we stopped being citizens and started being consumers demanding choice and cheap. When CEO's stopped being statemen capitalists and became stock price centric. When capitalism over rode democracy and the greater good became the greater greed. When 'from many, one' was replaced by 51% is a mandate.

    Perhaps it is nothing more than all good things do come to an end.

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