View Poll Results: What will you say?

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  • "Told you so. Our dependence on fossil fuels is unsustainable."

    0 0%
  • "Told you so. The Federal Reserve completely destroyed the dollar."

    6 25.00%
  • "Told you so. The government spent and spent our grandchildren's money."

    7 29.17%
  • "Told you so. Should have taxed the rich more, Bush tax cuts killed us."

    4 16.67%
  • "Told you so. The corporations have completely wrecked the economy."

    4 16.67%
  • "Told you so. Union bosses have completely wrecked the economy."

    4 16.67%
  • "Told you so. The New World Order is here to take away American sovereignty!"

    3 12.50%
  • "Social Darwinism baby, let the strong survive."

    1 4.17%
  • Other

    9 37.50%
  • "Dah Bears."

    3 12.50%
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Thread: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events, what

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I don't care what it takes to prevent us from having to crap in a bucket and wipe with a towel and then have to wash that towel,
    Hint: use a sponge, like the French royalty at the time.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    When foreigners star to panic and dump the dollar, the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events, like gasoline being $8 a gallon, and low value compact cars costing $100,000, what are you going to say?
    Not much. By then will have converted most of the wealth generating assets and liquid assets over to whatever currency is replacing the dollar. The dollar won't crash until there is a viable alternative.

    The Euro is a joke. The RMB is backed by a government few people are willing to trust in terms of monetary policy. That leaves, what the yen?

    We'll know long before the dollar crashes what to switch to.
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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    New Poll.

    So, after the economy collapses, forcing more military cuts where only skeleton crews are left in Europe, Korea, etc; and China then invades Taiwan by using several super-sized container ships with 200,000 soldiers packed in as sardines on a one way trip, the battle is over in one week, what will you say?

    1 "Told you so. Our dependence on fossil fuels is unsustainable."
    2 "Told you so. The Federal Reserve completely destroyed the dollar."
    3 "Told you so. The government spent and spent our grandchildren's money."
    4 "Told you so. Should have taxed the rich more, Bush tax cuts killed us."
    5 "Told you so. The corporations have completely wrecked the economy."
    6 "Told you so. Union bosses have completely wrecked the economy."
    7 "Told you so. The New World Order is here to take away American sovereignty!"
    8 "Social Darwinism baby, let the strong survive."
    9 Other
    10 "Dah Bears."

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hint: use a sponge, like the French royalty at the time.
    That is so disgusting, saw a show on Roman public bathrooms.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I guess not. The Euro will be the first to go, then follows the USD. At some time the USD will even pick up speed (well, relative to a crashing Euro, that's normal) but eventually go down the toilet as well. "Interesting" times ahead.
    The Euro-zone doesn't have constant massive trade deficits.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    That is so disgusting, saw a show on Roman public bathrooms.
    What do you think your 18c grandfather used, CNC brush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    The Euro-zone doesn't have constant massive trade deficits.
    Never mind, time will tell.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Oh come on lefties, you're slacking off, what about #1 or #4 in the poll? Ainchu gonna vote for them? Poll results show them as answers sitting all by their lonesome.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    When foreigners star to panic and dump the dollar, the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events, like gasoline being $8 a gallon, and low value compact cars costing $100,000, what are you going to say?
    Foreigners won't start to panic and dump the dollar.

    What will they use instead?

    They can't use the Euro. Look at how much money had to be loaned to Greece from the IMF. This was the first time for quite some time that the IMF had to loan money to a developed nation. And the IMF may even have to loan to other Eurozone nations, such as Spain, Portugal, and Ireland.

    There is even talk about splitting the Euro so there's one for the industrial economy of Northern Europe and one for the tourist economy of Southern Europe.

    And they can't use Chinese currency. The government of the PRC manipulates their currency far too much for their own ends. The PRC doesn't inherently care about confidence of their currency. Rather, they care only about their own agendas, and will manipulate their currency to push forward that agenda for as long as it is their agenda.

    So I don't know what all this talk about the collapse of the dollar is about. It's never going to happen, at least not any time soon.

    And you haven't even told us what policies will lead to the collapse of the dollar either. It's easy to say the sky is falling when you don't have to provide proof of it.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    New Poll.

    So, after the economy collapses, forcing more military cuts where only skeleton crews are left in Europe, Korea, etc; and China then invades Taiwan by using several super-sized container ships with 200,000 soldiers packed in as sardines on a one way trip, the battle is over in one week, what will you say?

    1 "Told you so. Our dependence on fossil fuels is unsustainable."
    2 "Told you so. The Federal Reserve completely destroyed the dollar."
    3 "Told you so. The government spent and spent our grandchildren's money."
    4 "Told you so. Should have taxed the rich more, Bush tax cuts killed us."
    5 "Told you so. The corporations have completely wrecked the economy."
    6 "Told you so. Union bosses have completely wrecked the economy."
    7 "Told you so. The New World Order is here to take away American sovereignty!"
    8 "Social Darwinism baby, let the strong survive."
    9 Other
    10 "Dah Bears."
    Wow. Yet another post you've made illustrating your ignorance of international affairs by showing yet again another scenario that will never happen.

    Even if the U.S. draws down its bases in Europe the U.S. will still maintain a strong naval force, even if it gets cut. So, most likely, the Army will face the most cuts and possibly the Marine Corps after them. Which means that we will still have enough of a naval and air force to act as a deterrent to prevent the PRC from invading the ROC.

    Especially when the PRC has handcuffed itself from pursuing foreign military adventures because of its authoritarian nature. Most of the military conflicts the PRC has been involved in has been land-based warfare and only against nations on its border. It does not have the power projection of other great nations. So what this means is that the PRC is really great at taking territory near it and for defending itself but is extremely ill-equipped for military missions elsewhere.

    The reason for this is because the PRC's authoritarian nature requires it to use so many people for internal security than foreign power projection. Basically, the PRC is occupying its own country with its soldiers to maintain its hold as a one-party system. It uses its own troops to quell dissent.

    So the PRC is in a bind. They can either institute more democratic political reforms in order to free up their security manpower to be used for power projection or they can maintain their authoritarian political system and lack the ability to project their military power but they can't do both.

    What's the point in conquering Taiwan if it means they'll have fewer troops to push down the uprising from students and laborers that's bubbling under the surface right now?

    So thanks for proposing another incredibly unlikely scenario.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: When the dollar crashes, setting off a spireling out of control chain of events,

    What would stop us from dropping the dollar altogether and starting up.. lets say... the Amero?
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