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    Regulations vs free market

    Hm?

    By regulations I mean not the lack of any rules but all kinds of levers for price control by the government (subsidies, duties, tariffs, VAT, licences, permits, etc., etc).
    How much market involvement of the government would you tolerate?

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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hm?

    By regulations I mean not the lack of any rules but all kinds of levers for price control by the government (subsidies, duties, tariffs, VAT, licences, permits, etc., etc).
    How much market involvement of the government would you tolerate?
    Those are taxes.

    A regulation is an unfunded mandate.

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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Those are taxes.

    A regulation is an unfunded mandate.
    Perhaps, but they are regulations of the market. That's what I meant.

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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    How are these terms defined in an objective sense?

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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hm?

    By regulations I mean not the lack of any rules but all kinds of levers for price control by the government (subsidies, duties, tariffs, VAT, licences, permits, etc., etc).
    How much market involvement of the government would you tolerate?
    A "free market" is actually an oxymoron. If there were absoulutely no regulations by the government then the big buisnesses would make them up. Most of the time to the detriment of smaller buisnesses. For example a big buisness that has stores across the country could easily take a hit in Hicksville by undercutting a competitors price who only has only the one store in Hicksville. Also big buisnesses don't care about the environment. They only care about their profit margin. They also don't care about society in general. They will do what ever it takes to squeeze the last penny from people.

    For these reasons and more government regulation is a must. The question though is just how much regulation should the government be allowed to do? Too much and it is no longer a good market and buisnesses will either die or move out. Too little and big businesses start doing whatever they can to increase profit margin to the detriment of the society.

    Beyond what I stated here...I have no idea just what the right amount of regulation we should have. It is almost impossible (if not completely impossible) to determine what exactly is good enough, too little, or too much for the simple fact that the market is way too fluid to gauge any of it properly. Some regulation might be just right, others too much and should be repealed, still others are too little and more should be added. Others that are just plain out dated and should be gotten rid of. Then there are those that are so complicated that not even a lawyer can tell you everything in it. And then the opposite of that would be those regulations that are too simple that loopholes abound.
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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Free Market, like a Free State, requires a small and proper amount of government regulation.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hm?

    By regulations I mean not the lack of any rules but all kinds of levers for price control by the government (subsidies, duties, tariffs, VAT, licences, permits, etc., etc).
    How much market involvement of the government would you tolerate?
    I do not think anyone is for a totally unrestricted free market.The only purpose of a business is for the people who run it to make a profit. This means that they will try to cut corners wherever possible and companies in the past have proven that they can not be trusted. I support tariffs, licenses/permits to run businesses, laws banning monopolies, certain environmental regulations and minimum wage.I also support restrictions on companies that manufacture stuff for our military.

    Heck after this bail out nonsense with the too big to fail lie that many of these socialists were trying to push and the threat of another great depression then we should also restrict how big a company can get.This is so that when the company goes under it doesn't take a significant portion of the country with it. No company should receive government IE tax payer aid period.
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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Man has caused these rules and regulations.
    IGNORANCE
    As to price controls ......
    GREED
    As long as man insists on charging a gold piece for that peon in the desert, dieing of thirst....then here too we must have controls.

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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not think anyone is for a totally unrestricted free market.The only purpose of a business is for the people who run it to make a profit. This means that they will try to cut corners wherever possible and companies in the past have proven that they can not be trusted. I support tariffs, licenses/permits to run businesses, laws banning monopolies, certain environmental regulations and minimum wage.I also support restrictions on companies that manufacture stuff for our military.

    Heck after this bail out nonsense with the too big to fail lie that many of these socialists were trying to push and the threat of another great depression then we should also restrict how big a company can get.This is so that when the company goes under it doesn't take a significant portion of the country with it. No company should receive government IE tax payer aid period.
    We agree, yey you are a "conservative" and I am a "liberal"....
    We also agree on "these companies too big to fail"...They must be pruned, like any wild plant.

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    Re: Regulations vs free market

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hm?

    By regulations I mean not the lack of any rules but all kinds of levers for price control by the government (subsidies, duties, tariffs, VAT, licences, permits, etc., etc).
    How much market involvement of the government would you tolerate?
    Some of those you listed are actually market-based incentives intended to correct a market failure. A preferable alternative to outright laws, yes?

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