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  • Develop a base? (i.e.: local, state, Congress, etc.)

    15 53.57%
  • Elect a President without a base?

    0 0%
  • Be included in Presidential debates?

    10 35.71%
  • Carry 10%+ of the Presidental popular vote?

    4 14.29%
  • Other

    14 50.00%
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Drop ANY mention of legalizing drugs. Focus on states rights, roles, and responsibilities. Promote return to constitutional form of government. Adopt intelligent and reasonable foreign policy stands. Oh...and it would help to CONTINUALLY point out the 16 trillion dollar debt and annual deficits that the two primary parties have saddled the country with and their completely inept manner.
    In other words, they need to become the party of the far right? I thought that was the Tea Party?
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    People I know see Libertarians as rich people who got theirs, refuse to share the benefits they got from society, who use arcane political philosophies and feel-good buzzwords to justify their refusing to pay society back.

    Some people. Not me. I think Libertarians are great.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    People I know see Libertarians as rich people who got theirs, refuse to share the benefits they got from society, who use arcane political philosophies and feel-good buzzwords to justify their refusing to pay society back.

    Some people. Not me. I think Libertarians are great.
    Wish I were rich.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    What does Libertarian Party (party, not individuals) need to happen for them to move forward in their agenda and helping the country?

    There are some who are so anti-libertarian that they will never give the notion an objective chance, but they will post here anyway. *sigh*. Personally, while I used to be libertarian, I no longer consider myself to be so, yet I still hold many of the ideals. Where they lose me is the utter lack of understanding of human nature, but be that as it may, there's a great deal of the philosophy that I still like. Anyway...

    If libertarian philosophy and the Libertarian Party is to move forward and actually effect change, what has to happen? I'm speaking primarily for this year and in this year's November elections.

    1. Develop a base? I.e.: local, state, Congress, etc. offices first?
    2. Elect a President without a base?
    3. Be included in Presidential debates?
    4. Carry 10%+ of the popular vote in the Presidential election?
    5. Other?

    To me, the Libertarian Party's biggest roadblock is itself. It doesn't organize locally. It doesn't build from the ground up. It would have to become what it loathes... a political organization that plays the game... in order to expand beyond the fringes. This is really the catch-22, isn't it? Compromise to gain access and change, or remain loyal to ideals and remain irrelevant.

    Note: This link is just meant as a reference for the thread... Gary Johnson 2.0: the Libertarians
    1. they need a ronald reagan like figure
    2. a willing to moderate positions and compromise
    3. mass changes in human nature (probably the hardest)

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In other words, they need to become the party of the far right? I thought that was the Tea Party?
    Of course you thought that. Luckily there are SOME reasonable, intelligent people...even liberals...who are smart enough to see the federal government, the dems and the republicans for the dismal failures that they are. Unfortunately, there are far too many people like you on both the left and right looking for bigger shovels with which to bury your grandchildren.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wish I were rich.
    You fool. You stand to your values, although abandoning them could make you much wealthier.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wish I were rich.
    Huh, I am rich. How's that for a script flip? We should make a sitcom.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Your question is based on a false premise. Libertarians are not interested in 'helping the country'. If you are a Libertarian, your only interest is in helping yourself and to hell with everybody else. It's why you are a Libertarian.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Explaining anything to you, is a fruitless en devour.
    Any and every time, a thread on libertarians or libertarianism comes up, you trot your way in to insult all said members.

    Why should I waste my time on someone with an ax to grind?
    But your zany political philosophy is so eminently insultable, how can we be blamed?
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Your question is based on a false premise. Libertarians are not interested in 'helping the country'. If you are a Libertarian, your only interest is in helping yourself and to hell with everybody else. It's why you are a Libertarian.
    This is blatant misstatement of Libertarianism. You are assuming that government can do no harm, which is false. Libertarianism is about improving the nation, because they are about doing away with the harmful government.

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