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  • Develop a base? (i.e.: local, state, Congress, etc.)

    15 53.57%
  • Elect a President without a base?

    0 0%
  • Be included in Presidential debates?

    10 35.71%
  • Carry 10%+ of the Presidental popular vote?

    4 14.29%
  • Other

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Horrible political hack. Is THAT clear enough for you?
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    From my personal experience, the majority of average americans are completely ignorant to everything that isn't force fed to them via fox news or CNN, and because these agencies rarely, if ever, mention libertarianism, they are then left in the dark about it.

    Or maybe I just need to surround myself with more intellectual people.
    Maybe. I do find that places which in general have higher educated people, there is a larger understanding and acceptance of Libertarian political philosophy.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    YOu really don't know me very well at all.
    I know your arguments on this subject very well (note, I am saying that on this subject, you are a horrible political hack; not that you are a horrible political hack on ALL subjects). Dispute the data if you want, but arguing against measurement is a futile effort.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    What does Libertarian Party (party, not individuals) need to happen for them to move forward in their agenda and helping the country?

    There are some who are so anti-libertarian that they will never give the notion an objective chance, but they will post here anyway. *sigh*. Personally, while I used to be libertarian, I no longer consider myself to be so, yet I still hold many of the ideals. Where they lose me is the utter lack of understanding of human nature, but be that as it may, there's a great deal of the philosophy that I still like. Anyway...

    If libertarian philosophy and the Libertarian Party is to move forward and actually effect change, what has to happen? I'm speaking primarily for this year and in this year's November elections.

    1. Develop a base? I.e.: local, state, Congress, etc. offices first?
    2. Elect a President without a base?
    3. Be included in Presidential debates?
    4. Carry 10%+ of the popular vote in the Presidential election?
    5. Other?

    To me, the Libertarian Party's biggest roadblock is itself. It doesn't organize locally. It doesn't build from the ground up. It would have to become what it loathes... a political organization that plays the game... in order to expand beyond the fringes. This is really the catch-22, isn't it? Compromise to gain access and change, or remain loyal to ideals and remain irrelevant.

    Note: This link is just meant as a reference for the thread... Gary Johnson 2.0: the Libertarians
    I voted other.

    They need to lobby for voting system reform that allows for third parties to get elected, such as a two-round voting system or an instant run-off ballot for elections.

    As long as we do the first-past-the-post system of election in which a candidate needs only a plurality, not a majority, of votes to get elected we will always inherently have a two-party system.

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    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    From my personal experience, the majority of average americans are completely ignorant to everything that isn't force fed to them via fox news or CNN, and because these agencies rarely, if ever, mention libertarianism, they are then left in the dark about it.

    Or maybe I just need to surround myself with more intellectual people.
    Perhaps the Libertarian party needs to do what Jeff Cohen is suggesting the Democrats do:

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    They need to develop a realistic platform.

    Otherwise, forget it.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Drop ANY mention of legalizing drugs. Focus on states rights, roles, and responsibilities. Promote return to constitutional form of government. Adopt intelligent and reasonable foreign policy stands. Oh...and it would help to CONTINUALLY point out the 16 trillion dollar debt and annual deficits that the two primary parties have saddled the country with and their completely inept manner.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Drop ANY mention of legalizing drugs. Focus on states rights, roles, and responsibilities. Promote return to constitutional form of government. Adopt intelligent and reasonable foreign policy stands. Oh...and it would help to CONTINUALLY point out the 16 trillion dollar debt and annual deficits that the two primary parties have saddled the country with and their completely inept manner.
    Drug legalization is an aside, focus should be put as you say. Focus on the philosophy, what does libertarianism say? Don't focus on "weed should be legal". It should be, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I think there is a lot of worth in the libertarian philosophy in general for how a government should act particularly in regards to the rights and liberties of its citizens.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Drug legalization is an aside, focus should be put as you say. Focus on the philosophy, what does libertarianism say? Don't focus on "weed should be legal". It should be, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. I think there is a lot of worth in the libertarian philosophy in general for how a government should act particularly in regards to the rights and liberties of its citizens.
    Its even easier...its a state issue. If California wants to legalize pot...or gay marriage...become a sanctuary state and offer massive welfare and social services...or whatever...then that is for the citizens of the state of California to decide and to manage and pay for.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They need to develop a realistic platform.

    Otherwise, forget it.
    My thoughts exactly.
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