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    15 53.57%
  • Elect a President without a base?

    0 0%
  • Be included in Presidential debates?

    10 35.71%
  • Carry 10%+ of the Presidental popular vote?

    4 14.29%
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Debating the poster and not the subject appears to be your "mo".
    When a poster employs tactics, that completely distort and shows a gross misunderstanding of the subject.
    I think it's entirely fair to point this out.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Right, are you going to totally ignore the entire rest of the article in relation to the internal operations of Hong Kong or are you going to still, continue on this rant?
    When you apply such a childish, superficial understanding of the workings of Hong Kong, you do in fact, come to the conclusion that your posts have made.

    Keeping on trucking.
    I wouldn't want to live in a country controlled by another, but if Libertarians do, I would not try to stop them. Knock yourself out!
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    When a poster employs tactics, that completely distort and shows a gross misunderstanding of the subject.
    I think it's entirely fair to point this out.
    More BS from the BS artiste.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I wouldn't want to live in a country controlled by another, but if Libertarians do, I would not try to stop them. Knock yourself out!
    Right, if that is what you believe the case to be, then please cease from responding to this thread.
    Your complete non understanding of the subject matter hasn't helped anything.

    Instead of focusing on a blurb, why don't you read the rest of the article.
    Come on now, dooooo it.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Right, if that is what you believe the case to be, then please cease from responding to this thread.
    Your complete non understanding of the subject matter hasn't helped anything.

    Instead of focusing on a blurb, why don't you read the rest of the article.
    Come on now, dooooo it.
    I've read the whole article and others about China. The part of the article that convinces me I wouldn't want to live in Hong Kong, is that China must endorse all new leaders there. Its not for me. But feel free to do what you like.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    The meaning of libertarian has become so dilluted and contradictory probably first it will be necessary for the libertarian party to actually have some sense of a platform. Ron Paul really messed up what it means to be a libertarian particularly with his advocacy of the federal government outlawing abortion and his anti-consumer, anti-civil rights and anti-environmentalism. He defined being a libertarian as an angry white male confederate.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The meaning of libertarian has become so dilluted and contradictory probably first it will be necessary for the libertarian party to actually have some sense of a platform. Ron Paul really messed up what it means to be a libertarian particularly with his advocacy of the federal government outlawing abortion and his anti-consumer, anti-civil rights and anti-environmentalism. He defined being a libertarian as an angry white male confederate.
    The LP has a platform: Platform | Libertarian Party


    Do you mean they should have a different platform?
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Very interesting, however poorly stated,IMO....
    The "conservatives" constantly harp on their idea that only business "creates" jobs, but here, its obvious that government does and that government really speeds things up..
    The government creates jobs, it speeds it up growth of industry, it unbalances markets, and creates growth in industry where in the market their naturally would be none.

    Also, IMO, libertarianism works not....maybe it would work in a "perfect" world.
    I think only anarcho-captialists are assuming a perfect world while people like myself "minarchists" have attempted to put up a system that can handle the shortcomings.

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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I've read the whole article and others about China. The part of the article that convinces me I wouldn't want to live in Hong Kong, is that China must endorse all new leaders there. Its not for me. But feel free to do what you like.
    Again, you're just deflecting.
    You aren't being intellectually honest.

    I'm completely open to criticism based on fact, not based on distortion.
    You could come to this game, making valid criticisms, as some others have done.
    Instead you keep playing this "how to make the ultimate partisan post" game.
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    Re: What does Libertarian Party need to happen for them to move forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Again, you're just deflecting.
    You aren't being intellectually honest.

    I'm completely open to criticism based on fact, not based on distortion.
    You could come to this game, making valid criticisms, as some others have done.
    Instead you keep playing this "how to make the ultimate partisan post" game.
    Where is the dishonesty in the fact that China must endorse all new leaders in Hong Kong? And what attracts you to that kind of control by others?

    I thought Libertarians were all about freedom and lack of government control, I would think especially by another country.
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