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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

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    Good for you...you would be doing them an injustice by not making them earn their keep...thats whats wrong with the entire attitude today...parents have no time to be parents...so they say...they have lots of excuses for not being parents...and the biggest is we have to work more today...BS...its easier not to be a parent and blame everything and everyone else
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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    In the winter...when I came home from school...everyday...I changed ran down to the basement...there were several coal furnaces..one for each apt...you had your own coal bin....the coal would be spent by the time I got home...I had to shovel out the soot...shovel in new coal...start it get it going bellow it...make sure it was all safe and contained...made sure the baffle was right were my father told me to put it....and then I ran the hell out of the house to go play something...before I went to bed...back to the basement and add more coal...7days a week I did that...plus alot more...for a quarter on saturday to go to the saturaday matinee at the movie theatre....

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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    While glossing through the 5/7/2012 volume of TIME magazine, I read about the notion of taxing both sugar and salt.

    TIME magazine's website doesn't seem to let you link directly to the article in question without paying first. That said, I found the article within a seperate site discussing it:



    Sin Taxes: Will marking up junk food make us healthier? | Shane Weight Loss Camps & Resorts

    Personally, I think it might be a good idea. It might have somewhat of a positive effect in general. Obviously with 34% of adults in the U.S. struggling with the obesity epidemic, there must be new measures taken. The question though is to what degree. My view is that we should tax such things like soda and candy upwards of 20-30%. Sure, it may seem draconian, but this needs to stop. As we consumers feed on the garbage that's stocked in our stores, in turn said corporations feed on us, making profit. I think, no, I know they deliberately try to addict us; addiction is great for business. Why wouldn't the corporation of, say, Mountain Dew want us to become addicted to it? It's all about the money.

    That's a bit aside the point. Such foods that can be easily addicted to and cause damage to your body should be taxed; not just 10%, but beyond. How many people know of kids and teenagers who were addicted to soda and candy, now suffering with cavities, without dental insurance? How many people do you know that, since childhood, became addicted to bad food? Instead of commercials advertising veggies to young children, you were bombarded with advertisements for Candy Pops and Pop-Tarts.

    If a 10-30% tax increase in these foods has a positive overall effect on the country, then damn it, that's good. Take it further until it places a sizeable dent in this obesity epidemic.
    Senseless - we don't consume mass quantities of salt in my home; I don't even buy it - let alone eat foods taht are high in it. . .

    Sugar It's in a lot of what everyone eats if you spend time pigging out on junk food - I don't think making that more expensive is going to do *anything* - businesses aim for profit = they will profit regardless.

    I think though that certain companies facing a crunch in business in the last few years that specialize in junk foods is a sign that we're eating less of it - like Twinkies, etc.

    But like my husband says about high produce prices for tobacco: it just made him go with inferior products and he eventually switched to dip - not cigarettes. . . one can can satisfy for several days, far less than a pack a cigarettes would have lasted him, and it's not as inconvenient. For it to become equally expensive like cigarettes did a can will ahve to cost $10.00 @
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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    It'll make obese people poorer, meaning they won't be able to afford quality healthcare, and they'll die sooner. Why do you want fat people to die wake?
    Because they are unpleasant to look at, they take up two seats in airplanes and complain when they have to pay more, they blame their obesity on everything but their own laziness and bad habits, they waste my valuable time when I have to follow them in a tight pathway and they can hardly walk, they clean out the buffet lines of all the bacon so I have to wait for some more to be brought out, they use up valuable fabric resources for the making of their clothes, their motorized scooters block the aisles at the grocery store, they give the nanny state more excuses to tax us, they spoil the view at beaches, ........
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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    That's a bit aside the point. Such foods that can be easily addicted to and cause damage to your body should be taxed; not just 10%, but beyond. How many people know of kids and teenagers who were addicted to soda and candy, now suffering with cavities, without dental insurance? How many people do you know that, since childhood, became addicted to bad food? Instead of commercials advertising veggies to young children, you were bombarded with advertisements for Candy Pops and Pop-Tarts
    Why is that any business of yours or the federal government of the United States of America. You know "Land of the Free" and all.
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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    Sin Taxes, by and large unless raised to obscene levels, are simply ways for the Government to make a profit off of something that is generally widely desired but easily demonized in a way that they can hide their true intent.

    Taxing Salt and Sugar is unlikely to have any significant impact on the health of this countries population. What it's likely to have an impact on is giving the government an excuse to grow even bigger then it already is as it pulls in more revenue and requires more beurcracy to oversee the new ventures into controlling food further.

    With how instrumental Salt and Sugar is to so many foods American's routinely eat, and that even includes healthy ones as well, the price raise needed to actually substantially limit their consumption to a level that has legitimate health benefits for the country would likely assure that any politician pushing such a thing would be thrown out. So what we'll see is small increases that the public can stomach, and thus doesn't change eating habits, but makes the government grow while they give the wink wink nudge nudge that it's "for your own good".

    Cigerette smokers are by and large a minority that after decades of negative attitudes have been successfully demonized. The same can not be said in terms of those who enjoy Salt and Sugar.

    The number of cigerette smokers compared to the number of people who say, enjoy a Candy Bar or Bag of Chips or Chocolate Chip Cookie or Pop Corn, is a far smaller size and thus not as much political worry to "target".

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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Real sugar isnt the cause of the obesity problem alone.....Id venture its a combination of Sweet drinks...Fat and Highly processed foods that give you nothing but more fat and salt...and LARDARSENESS...the age of aquarius is not the age of parketh thine arse in front of puter and talk about how old and dumb lpast is
    They are finding that sugar is worse that was thought. It's on the news right now. Just a note, not an advocacy for tax yet.

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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    What we find incredible is what obese people have given up in order to eat certain things, and too much. We control what we eat so we do all sorts of things, e.g. participate in a sport where there is a age division that old people like us can compete in and do socially. I don't think an increase in the price of sugar & fat based foods will change behavior much. The one thing I want to know is do obese people die cheaply? If they do die cheaply on average, then there isn't much of a health care cost to be concerned about. Then I guess that I'd advocate doing nothing, especially taxes.
    (Oh, I guess I have to add that this is not where I'm at nominally, i.e. somewhat progressive. This is what I'd call a conservative position.)
    Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 05-08-12 at 11:41 AM. Reason: Add comment. And correct per Aunt Spiker.

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    Re: Seasoning Tax: Will marking up sugar and salt make us healthier?

    You guys are debating a moot issue - it's not the cost of any one particular ingredient that's the issue, here . . . salt, sugar? Why not fat, butter, eggs, dairy, cheese, chocolate, flour - since they're all equally important in making junk foods.

    No - the reason why most people become overweight (not necessarily just obeses) - is quantity . . . even way too much of the RIGHT healthy foods can make you overweight . . . I dieted for about a year - I got rid of extras like snack cakes, sodas and other such junk foods. But I didn't lose all that much weight - I think I lost 7 lbs. Why? Eventually it occured to me I was just eating way too much - massive amounts of *healthy* foods = too many calories than even what I burned when I exercised routinely.

    Way too much food (calories, etc) = weight issues.
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