By taxing the junk food, there will be some less inclined to buy them, and instead opt for healthier foods around the same price, like carrots and celery. I'd rather see people buy their children baby carrots and apples over fruit loops and those fruit roll-up candies.
I would really appreciate some evidence that shows positive behavior-modification through taxation never, ever works. Would you say nations in Europe with similar methods don't work at all?
Taxing will not solve the problem. It didn't do it for cigs. That went down do increase education. Just because something is a problem doesn't mean you can tax it away.
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I think there are convenient ways to buy alternatives to junk food in poorer communities. Wal-Mart carries cheap vegetables like carrots, celeray, and cauliflower, as well as apples, oatmeal, rice, etc. There's also canned sardines that, while salty, are relatively cheap; methinks they'd be affected, though, which would suck since I love eating them. Then again a 10% tax increase on a roughly $1 item isn't much.
There are many yards in poorer communities. If I could have it my way people would come to the realization that lawn = potential garden plot. Grow asparagus, lettuce, brussels, tomatoes, etc! There are seed packs in Wal-Mart this very second that cost only .20¢. For $1 you can buy 5 'Danver's Half-Long Carrots' and sow all of them. They can be over-wintered for convenient access. They freeze well. They're healthy, filling, nutritious.
It doesn't take much to buy 7 $3.50 packs of 2-year-old Mary Washington asparagus crowns at x8 per pack from Menard's in Spring, planting them to rake in a massive feast next year.
One Mary Washington crown gives about half a pound of food. 64 crowns is 32 pounds. The plants have around a 20-year lifespan and they're very vigorous and resistant to diseases.
Last edited by Wake; 05-07-12 at 06:15 PM.
sure, it would have some positive effects. our nation is horribly in debt and we need new revenue streams. a sin tax would raise revenue, but it would do so in the worst, regressive way.
as for making people fit? no. it's a much more complex and difficult problem.
i can tell you how many calories i ate at each meal today. i also have my meals planned out for tomorrow, and a rough idea two to three days out. i also have my exercise completed for today, and i'm planning tomorrow's. additionally, i understand and accept that i will do so every day for the rest of my life. that's what it takes to achieve and maintain weight loss for me. raising the price of salt won't make people do that.
Pointing out that your 'sympathy' for someone doesn't do any good for that person or society is not hostility. Actions matter, not feelings. Actions accomplish things, fix things, take care of things, not feelings. If you can not see that, or figure that out, the offer for a tutor stands. That is action that can fix a problem, as just having empathy for your inability to understand doesn't do anybody any good. Got it?Second, I've never seen so much hostility directed at the notion of sympathy and empathy. Chill bro.
Basic health and safety practice suggests that rather than modifying behaviour, engineering out the problem is the more practical solution. Instead of messing around with taxation rates, legislate for recommended/maximum levels of the offending substances in pre prepared foodstuffs which are the main culprits, while requiring an indication on the packaging as to the content. Junk foods are particularly loaded with salt and or sugar to make them more addictive. A simple traffic-light system could show that a processed food is rated for, say, sugar, salt and fat content, with red being bad and green being good. A quick glance at a box on the side of the pack, showing red, red, red, tells you it's not the healthy option.
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Look, if you think that people who consume lots of sugar and salt are going to suddenly look at the high-tax price on those items and say "Oh my goodness! That's too expensive.... oh look, here's some lovely asparagus and carrots that are much cheaper, let's buy that instead!"
.... then you don't know much about human nature.
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