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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    When I was ten years old, I didn't carry my .22cal pump, octagon barrel, double peep Savage up the river for target practice when it was loaded. Nor did it point anyplace but toward the ground. We didn't point at each other, even in fun. We made no attempts to appear menacing or in flagrant display of our weapons. We were, however, irresponsible at times. For instance, we used to tape shotgun shells to the front of the BBgun and shoot at small birds. Stupid, even irresponsible ten year olds, just learnin'. I'm sure you and I would disagree on what's irresponsible because I consider "torture" irresponsible.
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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That comes from government overstepping its boundaries, and a new amendment won't protect against that.
    Especially since the original amendment hasn't.
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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    I would have thought by now one of the ballistic experts would have chimed in.

    In most pro-weapon states if you can legally own a pistol you can own a selective fire weapon like an AR/AK.

    You can own a fully automatic, belt fed weapon.

    You can own a grenade.

    You can own an RPG.

    You can own a mortar.

    You can own a tank.

    You can own an artillery piece.

    Look up Class-III

    I agree a citizen should be able to regain full rights after screwing up, we are supposed to be a nation of second chances. Do think it is three strikes and your out 'coz baseball is the national past time. Lunatics with M16s.... can't get warm n fuzzy with that.

    Now for all those ranters who think the reason the gubment won't go all the way, or even dumber thinks that if the gubment goes too far thinks their deer rifle will seize the high ground... Please mail me pics of the Mrs., I'd like to see where I'll be a'courting...

    Lots of tuff guys sitting around the interwebz, whole different head count once the two way range opens up for it's grim business, and there will be an incredibly lopsided body count very quickly.

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    don't we all know people who shouldn't be allowed outside, unsupervised, and aren't even felons yet?
    I would limit gun ownership so that known idiots cannot own them or have them

    Once a felon, always a felon, but there are non-violent felonies where I would support the perp owning a gun but only after petitioning the courts, and after "paying his debt to society". Bernie Madoff will never get a gun, based on his ability to repay his victims.....

    People do not easily change,, not without significant emotional events in their lives. If the courts deem a former felon sane enough to own a gun, and he commits a crime with it, back into the slammer, forever....
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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Do you support a constitutional amendment that guarantees all citizens who are not convicted felons the right to own fully automatic assault weapons? It would be meant to amend or clarify the second amendment.
    The 2nd Amendment was suppose to cover any firearms that the military has. Anything that they can carry onto the field of battle then the citizens should be able to do the same. The reason for this was two fold. 1: To keep the country protected incase there was ever an invasion. 2: To keep the government from gaining so much power that they didn't need to fear the citizens. Our FF's were not stupid. Considering they promoted advancement of science I'm quite sure that they knew that technology would progress beyond what they could imagine.
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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    If the Supreme court shows some balls and returns the Commerce Clause to what it should be rather than FDR's wet dream for unlimited congressional power we'd all be able to own select fire weapons since without the FDR expansion of the CC, congress couldn't ban such ownership

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    TO be honest...I just dont know bout this one...Im all for gun ownership...but I pause at full automatic ownership....I believe there has to be some limits in a society...Police must retain the ability to protect the public....
    people who own guns legally aren't the problem

    drug dealers with full auto weapons already ignore the laws

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    It will if assault weapons are clearly defined or specifically mentioned. The problem comes from the amendment having been written before those kinds of arms existed.
    True, so if the government wanted to further restrict ownership, they'd have to amend the Constitution first.
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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Is there anyone who actually believes that the commerce clause is a proper delegation of power to the federal government to regulate small arms in violation of the 2nd and Tenth Amendments? because if you believe the federal government should so regulate you will have to make that argument

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Truth be told, there are some stupid sumbitches out there who I wouldn't want to see with a full auto.

    Uncle Sam deems it important to teach everyone to appropriately handle and fire weapons. You must qualify. Some people don't qualify! That's right. I doubt those people ever make it to full auto in training. You'd be an idiot not to weed them out first if you could.

    The idea of giving some dickweed, who has no idea what the hell he is doing, the right to own a full auto assault rifle would make me uncomfortable. Sorry. There are ways to address the issue, I would be open to them, but just throwing the door open to everybody is not the answer I support.

    Anyone who has fired an weapon on full auto certainly enjoyed getting the juiced on the thrill the first few times. After that it's not such a big deal. If you have to buy your own ammo, it damn sure isn't worth it.
    Last edited by Risky Thicket; 05-07-12 at 11:23 PM.










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