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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    You do know what the recidivism rate is, do you not ?
    And punishment has been shown NOT to be effective..
    They. and all others, should only be allowed any gun ownership after they prove that their criminal past is indeed past, to my satsifaction..
    Public security is far more important than so-called gun rights.
    We are not living in the 1700s any more.....news flash to the conservatives.....and libertarians
    So you want to punish for future crime? Interesting, though I cannot agree. I think one can be held responsible for crimes they have committed; but not for ones they MAY commit. I suppose you and I differ there.

    If the punishment is not "effective" change the punishment. That doesn't mean that government gets infinite power to punish for infinite time frames. The one and only proper infinite punishment which may be handed down by government is life in prison without parole. Beyond that, every punishment ends. And when punishment ends, the rights and liberties of the individual should be recognized once again.

    We are not living in 1985 just yet....news flash to the progressives.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    I just think people should be allowed to have all the weapons they want, but one irresponsble act and they should be banned from ownership.

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Hell no!......


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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Only a lib-tard or occu-tard would see something wrong with trying to reenforce 2nd amendment rights.


    So do many liberals.But its funny that many of them want more government control.



    It needs a much greater participation of people who pay attention to politics.....Of course, and I will add a lot more than a grade school education and a 2 digit IQ....even an idiot can pay attention...lol




    When the government decides to **** on other constitutional rights it is the guns and ammo that will get them back.Not protesting or voting because if the government can **** on the 2nd amendment it can most certainly **** on the 1st,14th,15th,19th,23rd,24th, and 26th amendments and anything else in the constitution regarding the right to vote,protests,free speech and peaceful assembly.
    Funny how filthy language and silly insults seem to fly from the "minds" of conservatives. We need to conduct ourselves using far more than the Bible and the Constitution. The writings of Charles Dickens and Victor Hugo for two, and ***surprise of surprises*** the Koran....really off the wall, I'll admit.

    BTW, James, did you know that when one becomes emotional about a topic (guns), logic is blown to the winds ??
    The **** = emotion.

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    When I do a search I find no such consensus among DP members. But even if there were, and you remove the nukes, bunker busters, and AA, everything else I mention can be deployed by a soldier. And that is still a very scary scenario for most people.
    So they are scared, so what? Their fear doesn't make it wrong.
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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I just think people should be allowed to have all the weapons they want, but one irresponsble act and they should be banned from ownership.
    What's on your list of irresponsible acts?
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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I just think people should be allowed to have all the weapons they want, but one irresponsible act and they should be banned from ownership.
    Fully agree....even with the first part...but, if good psychological testing reveals murderous traits, then
    "pre-limits" are necessary.

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So you want to punish for future crime? Interesting, though I cannot agree. I think one can be held responsible for crimes they have committed; but not for ones they MAY commit. I suppose you and I differ there.

    If the punishment is not "effective" change the punishment. That doesn't mean that government gets infinite power to punish for infinite time frames. The one and only proper infinite punishment which may be handed down by government is life in prison without parole. Beyond that, every punishment ends. And when punishment ends, the rights and liberties of the individual should be recognized once again.

    We are not living in 1985 just yet....news flash to the progressives.
    Good response.....makes me think...
    I am, I think, anti-punishment....there must be better ways of doing things....
    I do not think that a loss of gun ownership is any kind of "punishment" for the felon..

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    No, not at all. The Second Amendmend already does that and I see no reason why we need another amendment to guarantee the same right already guaranteed under the Second Amendment.

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    Re: constitutional amendment guaranteeing full auto assault weapon ownership

    I don't agree with adding additional amendments when things are already established under the current amendment.

    Partially because, if you fail at getting the amendment passed for whatever reason...which isn't unlikely with how difficult it is to get such passed...then it presents fodder for the other side to use to suggest that what you wanted ISN'T already protected or else you wouldn't have needed to add an amendment.

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