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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    well GWB didn't do it when he got Hussein Obama, whoops I mean Saddam Hussein.........I sure get those 2 mixed up.
    Yup, you do. Mission Complete.

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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well the guys from SEAL TEAM 6 would probably be dead.........At least Hussein Obama would be safe and sound in the White House wouldn't he.....
    That isn't what Clinton meant when he said that. He was talking about political rammifcations to if the mission had gone bad. Do you honestly think Obama or Clinton did not know the risks those men were putting themselves in if the mission had gone bad? Clinton of any modern day president probably understands best how bad things can get considering Black Hawk Down happened under him.
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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    well GWB didn't do it when he got Hussein Obama, whoops I mean Saddam Hussein.........I sure get those 2 mixed up.
    Yup. GWB had decided approved a large mission into a country that we didn't have permission to operate in. Yup. I Remember how GWB got Saddam. You have quite a bit of pride, it shows.

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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if he doesnt give the order, the operation doesnt happen...so the order does mean something...Obama put his Presidency at stake, he took a real risk giving the go ahead, knowing full well that if it failed, the right would use it as a hammer on him.
    I grow tired of this idea that he took a risk. If it failed, the public would know that we found him and we took a real military stab at him. It would prove that not only did we not "forget about him," but that Obama wants his head. So the "risk" was next to nothing when we look at the political risk of doing nothing. So where exactly was the risk? All blood was going to be spilt by the military either way so what risk is taken by anyone in Washington ever?

    And the whole Carter thing people keep bringing up. His time in office wasn't cut short to only one term because of the failed attempt to free hostages. His time in office was cut short because after 444 days he did nothing else and because of his behavior on the international stage (hence the defection of NeoCons from the Democratic Party).
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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Hey Navy Pride...or more appropriately Voice of Reason,

    If you're so angry about Obama politicizing terrorism, why did you say absolutely nothing on Whistlestopper when Cheney said that if Kerry was elected, we'd see a successful terrorist attack?

    Obama's pulling the same **** the GOP did when it comes to terrorism. It's just you have a problem when the tactic you love to hit Democrats on is used against you.
    So when you guys aren't bashing Bush you're bashing Cheney?
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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    I grow tired of this idea that he took a risk. If it failed, the public would know that we found him and we took a real military stab at him. It would prove that not only did we not "forget about him," but that Obama wants his head. So the "risk" was next to nothing when we look at the political risk of doing nothing. So whre exactly was the risk? All blood was going to be spilt by the military either way so what risk is taken by anyone in Washington?
    I don't know, there is absolutely no doubt our treasure in blood would lay on the Pakistani soil had the mission failed. Unless people are living under a rock, which is a realistic possibility now-a-days, most know it would have been the blood of that small number of Americans willing to walk the walk so the rest of the United States can have McDonald's, cheap chinese Tv's, and iPhones. I have no doubt that when Obama was watching the live video from the drone, and that first helicopter crashed going into the compound, flash backs of Jimmy Carter danced in his head. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the political environment of today would allow for those opposed to Obama to attack his leadership, making the attacks against Carter look like child's play. To think Obama's political enemies would give him pass on a failure of this proportion seems not so realistic.

    Seems to me he actually took a huge political risk by doing what he was suppose to. Inherently, there is something wrong with that. Something seems wrong when you take a political risk by doing the right thing.

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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    notice i said 'some'...read for comprehension my friend...very proud of our seals ....no kidding navy, they carried out a dangerous mission, and could have died....thankfully, that didnt happen, and the mission was a great success...God bless our men and women in uniform...they stand ready to do great violence so that we may sleep at night.
    You miss the point my friend.......If the mission had failed they would be dead so my question to you is who risked more Hussein Obama or the Seal team 6?
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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Yup, you do. Mission Complete.
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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    I don't know, there is absolutely no doubt our treasure in blood would lay on the Pakistani soil had the mission failed. Unless people are living under a rock, which is a realistic possibility now-a-days, most know it would have been the blood of that small number of Americans willing to walk the walk so the rest of the United States can have McDonald's, cheap chinese Tv's, and iPhones. I have no doubt that when Obama was watching the live video from the drone, and that first helicopter crashed going into the compound, flash backs of Jimmy Carter danced in his head. I could be wrong, but I am pretty sure the political environment of today would allow for those opposed to Obama to attack his leadership, making the attacks against Carter look like child's play. To think Obama's political enemies would give him pass on a failure of this proportion seems not so realistic.

    Seems to me he actually took a huge political risk by doing what he was suppose to. Inherently, there is something wrong with that. Something seems wrong when you take a political risk by doing the right thing.
    President Obama may have gotten OBL, but he also surrendered to the terrorists in Iraq.

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    Re: Do you think Obama takes to much credit for the killing of Bin Laden?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    I don't know, there is absolutely no doubt our treasure in blood would lay on the Pakistani soil had the mission failed.
    Pakistan, like so many belligerents, receives a paycheck. In other words they are on payroll. If it failed they would have still had to answer (or not answer as the case is) to the fact that we had to seek him out within their borders anyway. There wouldn't have been anymore backlash than there was.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    To think Obama's political enemies would give him pass on a failure of this proportion seems not so realistic.
    Republicans don't give him a pass either way. Clinton is blasted for bombing "empty aspirin warehouses." You think Obama wouldn't have been blasted for not going after Osama Bin Laden after having his exact position pin pointed? He didn't make a decision. He simply did the only thing politically possible. And if he failed, despite the Republican exploitation, he would be on record for continuing the search and the fact is that it would have been the military that failed, just like under Carter. This is exactly what Democrats would be arguing and they would be right because Obama, nor Carter, was on a helicopter. Anymore than Obama was behind the sniper rifle that freed the hostage taken by Somali pirates. So what was the risk again?

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