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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I wasn't clear. When I wrote "So your ready to defend your group, therefore ready for anarchy." I'm saying that your standing "...ready to deploy and engage the enemies of the United States, and to uphold the Constitution." I'm just, in this instance, taking a world POV; not a country POV. (BTW, I spent a year defending the United States from N. Vietnam.)
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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    Anarchy would be a temporary state, since society (and by extension, government) would naturally evolve from it after a while.
    Totalitarianism would last as long as whoever's in power has the guns.

    So, the former, I guess.

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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Anarchy would be a temporary state, since society (and by extension, government) would naturally evolve from it after a while.
    Totalitarianism would last as long as whoever's in power has the guns.

    So, the former, I guess.
    I think that during anarchy the group with the most power, e.g. guns, will win. Then you'll have totalitarianism.

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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    It just occurred to me that we actually have a state of anarchy right now, in that the roughly 200 states of the world exist as sovereign, independent polities with no system of government over them.

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    Anarchy is all there ever is.

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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    In either case you end up with totalitarianism.

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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    In either case you end up with totalitarianism.
    Very true. If the government were to vanish tomorrow, anarchy taking over, within a short time that void would be filled and we would end up with fascism.
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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Very true. If the government were to vanish tomorrow, anarchy taking over, within a short time that void would be filled and we would end up with fascism.
    I doubt it would be so sophisticated as fascism, which requires things like propaganda, an ideology, some levels of cultural engineering, some semblance of a modern market, etc. I think it would more resemble feudalism where people with weapons enforce their will without regard to whatever the culture is with lots of raping and pillaging.
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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    It just occurred to me that we actually have a state of anarchy right now, in that the roughly 200 states of the world exist as sovereign, independent polities with no system of government over them.
    That's not good enough. We need communitarian states (communities, where people know each other personally),thousands and thousands of them, in a world federation. The federation obviously is for providing peace (otherwise states may attack each other) and resolving conflicts between those city-states.

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    Re: Anarchy or Totalitarianism?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I doubt it would be so sophisticated as fascism, which requires things like propaganda, an ideology, some levels of cultural engineering, some semblance of a modern market, etc. I think it would more resemble feudalism where people with weapons enforce their will without regard to whatever the culture is with lots of raping and pillaging.
    Good point. I agree that stage would be the next one. Eventually, corporations would make sure they had a very friendly authority to deal with and fascism - in one form or another would being to appear across the land.
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