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Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

  • Yes, no doubt

    Votes: 19 35.8%
  • Kind of

    Votes: 16 30.2%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Not really

    Votes: 12 22.6%
  • No, not at all

    Votes: 5 9.4%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Total voters
    53

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People once rushed to America, the land of the free, from all over the world. Do you think that still holds true (the freedom, not the rushing)? :)
 
Relative to some countries out there, we still enjoy quite a bit of freedom. But as much as we used to? No.
 
It could be, if people actually valued freedom (and the responsibility that comes with it).
 
It could be, if people actually valued freedom (and the responsibility that comes with it).

What might be...if people valued freedom? That would require people to have a cultural epiphany.
 
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I have visited over 100 countries in my lifetime and none are better then the USA by far.......It is definitely the country with the most freedom in the world.....
 
Absolutely the land of the free. There are very very few things we cannot do, and those mostly involve infringing on other people's rights. The exceptions to this are there, but not enough to significantly affect our lives.
 
Absolutely the land of the free. There are very very few things we cannot do, and those mostly involve infringing on other people's rights. The exceptions to this are there, but not enough to significantly affect our lives.

Hey Redress mark the time down, we almost agree on something.....:applaud
 
It's as free as you make it.
 
Relative to most countries we are very free. However, compare it to our own history we have lost quite a bit of freedom. I went with the "kind of" because we are for the most part free. However, go to the airport and see how free you are with the TSA. Go to Middleborugh, Massachusetts and drop an "F" bomb. (You'll get fined $20)

Try to hold a protest around the president. Tell the people of Flint, Michigan they have a voice in their local government. (They do not because of Michigan's law of 'emergency managers' that can come in and take over a city indefinitely)

At the same time...we can travel throughout the country at will. We have a voluntary military. We enjoy basic freedoms.
 
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Relative to most countries we are very free. However, compare it to our own history we have lost quite a bit of freedom. I went with the "kind of" because we are for the most part free. However, go to the airport and see how free you are with the TSA. Go to Middleborugh, Massachusetts and drop an "F" bomb. (You'll get fined $20)

Try to hold a protest around the president. Tell the people of Flint, Michigan they have a voice in their local government. (They do not because of Michigan's law of 'emergency managers' that can come in and take over a city indefinitely)

At the same time...we can travel throughout the country at will. We have a voluntary military. We enjoy basic freedoms.

Exactly. Still better than most, not as good as we used to be. The shining city on the hill has lost its sparkle.
 
Not like it used to be, but relatively speaking still pretty free.
 
There are many component elements that comprise the ideal of individual liberty. Property rights are under attack by the left and individual autonomy is under attack by the right. The left has been more successful than the right. Take off the blinders.
 
I have visited over 100 countries in my lifetime and none are better then the USA by far.......It is definitely the country with the most freedom in the world.....

My country does not stop me from visiting any other country in the world, untill Americans can say the same I don`t think they can still claim to be the land of the free. Still compared to many countries the USA is very free.
 
My country does not stop me from visiting any other country in the world, untill Americans can say the same I don`t think they can still claim to be the land of the free. Still compared to many countries the USA is very free.

I don't have a problem with my country not allowing to visit some 3rd world country because it is done to protect my safety
 
I don't have a problem with my country not allowing to visit some 3rd world country because it is done to protect my safety

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
 
What the hell does that mean?

I think he is referring to people such as yourself that are willing to hand over some of your freedoms that our countrymen have died to protect in order to obtain a bit of a false sense of security. You have many times on this site spoken about being willing to give up those freedoms.
 
America is still one of the most free countries. What truly scares me though....is if the right-wing agenda is ever able to gain a foothold, we will see many of those freedoms disappear.
 
it depends on what you mean by freedom.the rules are established to limit the freedom ,not to increase the limit of freedom.
 
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