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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The goals of humanity revolve around freedom. Do you agree or disagree?



    There is perception and then there is reality. Believing perception equals reality is a falsehood.
    For the most part yes...humans should be as free as they can be....but unfortunately we humans are flawed...and have to be restrained from doing whatever WE WANT TO WHEN WE WANT TOO...

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    henrin lets break this down ok....

    Is it a right of Freedom...to kill another human...or to rape a child...or to rape a woman...is it freedom to ram your car into your X wife because she rejected you for another. Is it freedom for me to walk in a restaurant and stick my finger in your food because i feel im free so I can do that....yes i know rediculous examples....but examples to show why humans Americans Included cannot have the FREEDOM to do whatever they want...some one has to make rules as to what they CANT DO...and I believe americans have the freedom to do more of what they want than any other on the planet...right now.

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    different people have different concepts of freedom. Mine involve doing something without the government acting against you. To some-freedom means being able to do something by forcing others to pay for it

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    To some-freedom means being able to do something by forcing others to pay for it
    As someone who's total family wealth is either equal, or surpasses yours.

    And knowing you're still doing well.

    Your bitching about this never ceases to amaze me.

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    different people have different concepts of freedom. Mine involve doing something without the government acting against you. To some-freedom means being able to do something by forcing others to pay for it
    Very true...Im not approaching this issue from a cost perspective...Im approaching it from a freedom perspective and what it costs to be be free in RESTRICTING behavior....yours is a different aspect im not addressing.

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    I am Canadian I believe my country is just as free as the USA. In some respects we are freer in others we have less freedom. It all depends on exactly where you look.

    As to how I percieve freedom. I believe that your freedom ends where anothers begins. In other words you should be allowed to do anything you want as long as you don't interfere with anothers freedom.
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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    As someone who's total family wealth is either equal, or surpasses yours.

    And knowing you're still doing well.

    Your bitching about this never ceases to amaze me.

    Turtle is a good guy Jet...his whining has become a forum habit for him...theres many of us whine about the same thing reduntantly

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    As someone who's total family wealth is either equal, or surpasses yours.

    And knowing you're still doing well.

    Your bitching about this never ceases to amaze me.
    wow, your family is worth that much over 80 million? I am impressed

    And how is that bitching-I am merely noting the position of several so called left wing libertarians who say someone who cannot earn their own food and shelter is not free.


    Your whining about me is amazing

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Turtle is a good guy Jet...his whining has become a forum habit for him...theres many of us whine about the same thing reduntently
    thanks but Jet seems not to know what whining is. that post of mine was not whining

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    Re: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I am Canadian I believe my country is just as free as the USA. In some respects we are freer in others we have less freedom. It all depends on exactly where you look.

    As to how I percieve freedom. I believe that your freedom ends where anothers begins. In other words you should be allowed to do anything you want as long as you don't interfere with anothers freedom.
    Well said..

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