Thread: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

Originally Posted by AreteCourage

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

The Patriot Act comes to mind.

America is still one of the most free countries. What truly scares me though....is if the right-wing agenda is ever able to gain a foothold, we will see many of those freedoms disappear.

Originally Posted by lizzie

The Patriot Act comes to mind.

NDAA does too

Was it ever, really?

it depends on what you mean by freedom.the rules are established to limit the freedom ,not to increase the limit of freedom.

Originally Posted by Navy Pride

I don't have a problem with my country not allowing to visit some 3rd world country because it is done to protect my safety

Well some of us don't enjoy a nanny state as much as you do.

When I start to doubt I start to read what people from other countries have to say about freedom of speech or freedom of assembly, shudder, and go back to realizing that the answer is "we're still pretty okay, yeah."

I don't have a problem with my country not allowing to visit some 3rd world country because it is done to protect my safety

I wasn't trying to dish the USA, just pointing out it isn't the home of the free as much as it used to be. Though I gotta admit I do not like the idea of the govt deciding what is best/safest for me. I prefer to make these decisions myself. I do know that Cuba is a very safe place to visit one of the safest in the Caribean. The restrictions imposed are not for your safety but for political reasons. Good reasons/bad reasons that could be another thread, but they are reasons decided by political policy, not concern for the safety of american citizens.

Originally Posted by Canell

People once rushed to America, the land of the free, from all over the world. Do you think that still holds true (the freedom, not the rushing)?

Yes - we're still free. We reserve rights and liberties that other counties still don't (not all, of course) - and we're still not under the governance of anyone but our own selves (where our 'freedom' originated: freedom from the British Monarchy and hteir unjust ruling)

Originally Posted by Navy Pride

What the hell does that mean?

I'm looking at freedom in America from a personal standpoint.