Thread: Is the U.S. still "the land of the free"?

Relative to most countries we are very free. However, compare it to our own history we have lost quite a bit of freedom. I went with the "kind of" because we are for the most part free. However, go to the airport and see how free you are with the TSA. Go to Middleborugh, Massachusetts and drop an "F" bomb. (You'll get fined $20)

Try to hold a protest around the president. Tell the people of Flint, Michigan they have a voice in their local government. (They do not because of Michigan's law of 'emergency managers' that can come in and take over a city indefinitely)

At the same time...we can travel throughout the country at will. We have a voluntary military. We enjoy basic freedoms.

Originally Posted by AreteCourage

Relative to most countries we are very free. However, compare it to our own history we have lost quite a bit of freedom. I went with the "kind of" because we are for the most part free. However, go to the airport and see how free you are with the TSA. Go to Middleborugh, Massachusetts and drop an "F" bomb. (You'll get fined $20)

Try to hold a protest around the president. Tell the people of Flint, Michigan they have a voice in their local government. (They do not because of Michigan's law of 'emergency managers' that can come in and take over a city indefinitely)

At the same time...we can travel throughout the country at will. We have a voluntary military. We enjoy basic freedoms.

Exactly. Still better than most, not as good as we used to be. The shining city on the hill has lost its sparkle.

Not like it used to be, but relatively speaking still pretty free.

Originally Posted by Mickey Shane

It's as free as you make it.

What the hell does that mean?

Originally Posted by Navy Pride

What the hell does that mean?

Maybe he forgot that we have congress and a president who is pen-happy with legislation.

There are many component elements that comprise the ideal of individual liberty. Property rights are under attack by the left and individual autonomy is under attack by the right. The left has been more successful than the right. Take off the blinders.

I have visited over 100 countries in my lifetime and none are better then the USA by far.......It is definitely the country with the most freedom in the world.....

My country does not stop me from visiting any other country in the world, untill Americans can say the same I don`t think they can still claim to be the land of the free. Still compared to many countries the USA is very free.

Originally Posted by Quag

My country does not stop me from visiting any other country in the world, untill Americans can say the same I don`t think they can still claim to be the land of the free. Still compared to many countries the USA is very free.

I don't have a problem with my country not allowing to visit some 3rd world country because it is done to protect my safety

Originally Posted by Navy Pride

I don't have a problem with my country not allowing to visit some 3rd world country because it is done to protect my safety

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Originally Posted by Navy Pride

What the hell does that mean?

I think he is referring to people such as yourself that are willing to hand over some of your freedoms that our countrymen have died to protect in order to obtain a bit of a false sense of security. You have many times on this site spoken about being willing to give up those freedoms.